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Old 10-12-2006, 02:50 AM
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Anyone know of kits or plans for the Whale? I am going to start a collection of flying models of all of my old squadron aircraft, and the Whale popped my cherry as an Airframer.....
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:26 AM
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So far the only one I have seen is the S3.
I was a plane capt. on the A-3s in 64-66 myself.
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Old 10-17-2006, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by John Seidelman View Post
So far the only one I have seen is the S3.
I was a plane capt. on the A-3s in 64-66 myself.
I was in the last A-3 Airframes FRAMP class, and the last squadron to fly them, VAQ-33, NAS Key West, FL, 91-94.
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Old 10-18-2006, 01:44 AM
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There is a download of the planes manual online at the A3 users group if you want to take the time. Can't remember the link now but they went to a pay site, and I left it then. But you can still visit it and download pix and stuff.

http://www.a3skywarrior.com/

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Old 10-27-2006, 01:41 AM
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If you don't mind using uncle willies, he has the plans from MAN 4/57 of the Douglas B-66, which could be reworked into a whale.
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Originally Posted by John Seidelman View Post
So far the only one I have seen is the S3.
I was a plane capt. on the A-3s in 64-66 myself.
I was in a VAW squadron on America in 66 and Saratoga in 67 (E1B's)...had these beasts with us during those cruises...beautiful aircraft.

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Old 11-07-2006, 07:12 PM
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Hell, they are big, leaky, cantankerous PITA's. There's a reason, that you probably saw, that we called them "All 3 Dead".

But....I was one of the last...ended up working on the crew that restored the one at NAS Key West. Now stuck in the Strike Fighter community!
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Unfortunately, I *do* know why they're called that. Lost a couple of friends in Nam due to that...

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My plane was one of them shot down over there. after I returned to the US they shot it down in China. All 4 members MIA.
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John,

The one I was familiar with was from VQ-2 stationed in Japan. I'm trying to remember which ship I was on at the time but I think it was the Saratoga...I pulled duty on 5 different carriers back in the day (mid to late 60's) so I can't really place it. We worked together with them in the AMD shop and they shared quarters with us. When we heard they were MIA it hit us all in our VAW squadron. They were quite "spooky" and wore no squadron or ships insignia but I'm sure you know all of that and a lot more.

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John,

The one I was familiar with was from VQ-2 stationed in Japan. I'm trying to remember which ship I was on at the time but I think it was the Saratoga...I pulled duty on 5 different carriers back in the day (mid to late 60's) so I can't really place it. We worked together with them in the AMD shop and they shared quarters with us. When we heard they were MIA it hit us all in our VAW squadron. They were quite "spooky" and wore no squadron or ships insignia but I'm sure you know all of that and a lot more.

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How well I do know.
My plane was at cubie for repairs and on the return to the Hawk, some how all the radars and guidance systems failed, and they ended up over a Chinese Island getting shot down. Reports said they were bombing. Which I found a little hard to figure as our planes were all KA-3s tanker versions and didn't carry much ord.
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Twizter68 View Post
Anyone know of kits or plans for the Whale? I am going to start a collection of flying models of all of my old squadron aircraft, and the Whale popped my cherry as an Airframer.....
Hi Twizter,
I'm now working on A3D plans for a future scratchbuild (after the Stratojet and 2 other jets i'm building). May be you'll be interested in this project...
She'll be out of 3mm Depron and 43" ws. Twin EDF 40 or 50 and feigao brushless motors.

Here are 2 links to threads about USN jets i draw and built :
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=450425

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...light=crusader

Greetings from Paris
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PS : Which unit did you serve in ?

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Philippe, yes I would be interested in the project! I was with VAQ-33 from 1991 until it decommissioned in 1993; left the base in 1994. We had TA-3's, KA-3's, and ERA-3D's, as well as a smattering of other aircraft, such as the EA-6A (no, that's not a typo, either!) and EA-7L's.
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Old 12-15-2006, 06:13 AM
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Ok, i'll tell you about the project and post some pics when i'll start on !
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Hi Philippe,

Have you started a thread on the B-47 yet? It would be great to see one of your builds over here on Wattflyer

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Hi Tom,
I started on the B47 build, but very slowly, with little things... And i'll leave the house for ten days (spring vacations) next week end . I also had to maiden the Mirage F1 (great fast jetpusher -i'm wondering about an Alfafan Jetscreamer version-) and Saab Tunnan (lot of unsolved problems with this one...?? ) So i can't start the Stratojet thread yet, but i promise i'll do it as soon as i'll have some interesting things to show here and, in the same time, on RCG !
In the other hand, i still have to bring the F8, Super Etendard and enlarged version of the TA 183 Huckebein plans to the copyshop for scan before sending them to you for your website... Just a little bit more patience, i know i'm very late, compared to my promises... I'm now very enthusiastic about drawing and building new Parkjets !
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Old 02-14-2008, 06:34 PM
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Just wondering if there has been anything going on with this build?
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:10 AM
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Not yet ! I just got a pair of microfans and razor 300 for the Whale. Plans are now ended, but i need to find retracts before to start the construction !
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Old 02-15-2008, 04:50 AM
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Can't wait to see it.
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Old 02-20-2008, 02:56 PM
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Just some specs before starting on the construction :
My Whale will be 1350 mm (53,14") WS and 1370 mm (53,9") L. I'll use a pair of microfans with razor 300 motors. Nacelles will be 305 mm (12") L , 40 mm (2,75") large and 80 mm (3,14") high without pylons. I think the final weight will be around 1000-1200 grams (34-41 oz), or lighter if possible, so she'll be a nice flyer. All the airframe will be from 3 and 6 mm Depron with thin plywood and balsa reinforcements. I'm ready to start on the construction, but i still need the right-and light-and no-expensive retracts...
... And there'll be a buildthread, of course !
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Old 11-11-2008, 03:23 AM
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Any progress yet on the build?
Here are the real specs from the Navy

Specifications
Manufactured by Douglas
Length 76 ft. 4 in. 23.27 meters
Wingspan 72 ft. 6 in. 22.1 meters
Height 22 ft. 9.5 in. 6.95 meters
Wingarea 812 sq. ft. 75.43 sq. m.
Empty Weight 39,409 lbs. 17,876 kg.
Loaded Weight 70,000 lbs. 31,751 kg.
Maximum Weight 82,000 lbs. 37,195 kg.
Wing loading 86.2 lb./sq. ft. 420.9 kg./sq. m.
Power loading 2.8 lb./lb.
Propulsion
No. of Engines 2
Powerplant Pratt & Whitney J57-P-10
Thrust (each engine) 10,500 lb. no injection
12,400 lb. water injection
Performance
Range 2100 miles 3381 km.
cruise speed 520 mph 837 km/h
max. speed 610 mph 982 km/h
service ceiling 41,000 ft. 12,495 m
Dimensions, weights and performance for A-3B
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Old 11-12-2008, 05:33 PM
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John you didn't tell me you were on the Kitty Hawk. My bro-in law was on it when the apollo 11 crew was recovered. GGRN if this helps get you motivated here's my Squadron of Navy parkjets. And a micro Corsair
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Old 11-12-2008, 06:55 PM
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It's not a question of motivation, but a question of time... I've several irons in fire in the same time...
Here are some of my scratchbuilt navy jets (f8 Crusader, A4 Skyhawk, Super Etendard and Rafale M). I also have a S3 A, but it's more a trainer looking like a Viking than a scale-looking model. I can provide TIF files for the A4, Super Etendard, Rafale M and S3A viking...
I'm working on a kit of the F8 Crusader (it'll be available in the early 2009), if it works, i think i'll do the same with the A3D...
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Old 11-12-2008, 08:00 PM
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I watched some of the Scooter build and she turned out Great. I was just hoping that the A-3 would be started. Oh well I guess The world will have to wait. When you do get it done don't forget to go over to the A-3-d home page and let them guys know about it.
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Old 11-12-2008, 08:02 PM
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Yep I was on the Hawk for my Free Cruise to South East Asia in 65-66 with VAH 4 Det Charlie a 3 plane tanker det.
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