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Old 01-14-2009, 02:36 AM
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Default What's a good first 3d plane for an advanced flyer?

Not for me (I'm just a beginner) but my boyfriend (Cheese_Puddin) was looking for a good first 3d plane. He's an advanced flyer -- been flying for many years and has flown mainly WWII airplanes, gas and electric. What's a decently priced nice first 3d plane for an advanced flyer?
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Hacker Super Zoom

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Blade Dancer

OR, you can just get a sheet of Depron (or Dow Bluecore), and cut one out yourself. Just make the control surfaces REALLY big, with lots of throw, and it'll work.
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Originally Posted by Jaiyla View Post
Not for me (I'm just a beginner) but my boyfriend (Cheese_Puddin) was looking for a good first 3d plane. He's an advanced flyer -- been flying for many years and has flown mainly WWII airplanes, gas and electric. What's a decently priced nice first 3d plane for an advanced flyer?
how about building one!I love my "Nasty" & its super simple to make.you dont have to use/order the depron foam to make one either.I made mine out of 1/2 inch house insulation foam board.you can find it at your hardware store.its only 10 dollars & comes in 4x8 sheets like plywood so you have enough to make several planes!

heres a thread http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=390003

the tiled format plan www.tornlogic.com/avov/nasty3.pdf
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Old 01-14-2009, 03:31 AM
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I'm learning on a Hobby Lobby Yak, it's a lot of fun. You will try things with a cheap foamie that you would never do with a nicer plane. Makes it easy and fun to learn.

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/yak55.htm
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Originally Posted by Jaiyla View Post
Not for me (I'm just a beginner) but my boyfriend (Cheese_Puddin) was looking for a good first 3d plane. He's an advanced flyer -- been flying for many years and has flown mainly WWII airplanes, gas and electric. What's a decently priced nice first 3d plane for an advanced flyer?

Well, even for the advanced RC pilot, the world of 3D presents some challenges - It takes a bit of stick time to start asking the plane to do things you would normally avoid with a warbird. Like stalling on purpose and flying very slow near the ground.

I've had lots of fun lately with what are called "profile" planes - they are lightweight versions of popular aerobatic airplanes like the YAK that consist of two dimensional foam. These are light and responsive little planes and the best bit is they mend up with packing tape, so you can pretty much literally learn the hard way, if you choose.

If you are planning to surprise him with one, look at the 'standard' or 38" kits offered by DWfoamies. They come without motors, servos or radio gear, but that is where your b/f's experience comes in.

Truly a joy to fly - stable, well built and great support from the guys at Depron West.

And no I do not work for them.

Hope this helps,

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Old 01-14-2009, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by smokejohnson View Post
I'm learning on a Hobby Lobby Yak, it's a lot of fun. You will try things with a cheap foamie that you would never do with a nicer plane. Makes it easy and fun to learn.

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/yak55.htm
The other Yak55 is a fun on too! bub, steve
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Old 01-14-2009, 03:55 AM
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Here you go hon he will love this plane

http://www.dwfoamies.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1vcUcZ9SXs

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Old 01-14-2009, 04:01 AM
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or he can make one like this from 9mm depron

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39692

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTbir0Uc6Q8

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Old 01-14-2009, 04:05 AM
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or a nice ARF

http://www.nitroplanes.com/newyak543dfu.html

Hurry on this one only $69.00

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Thank you guys so much! He came home to a lot of choices and is looking into them all.
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Old 01-14-2009, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaiyla View Post
Thank you guys so much! He came home to a lot of choices and is looking into them all.
LOL, Why choose Buy all of them and help the Economy
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hahaha he would LOVE to chellie!!
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and the winner is........
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drum roll please
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Old 01-14-2009, 01:28 PM
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Just to be clear, I said this -->
Originally Posted by Lieutenant Loughead View Post
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Blade Dancer

OR, you can just get a sheet of Depron (or Dow Bluecore), and cut one out yourself. Just make the control surfaces REALLY big, with lots of throw, and it'll work.
...and everyone else suggested airplanes made of Depron or Dow Bluecore! (Well, Chellie suggested a Nitroplanes model, which isn't "flat"...)

My point is that most 3D airplanes are made of the same kinds of material, and you can cut one yourself for a lot less money than you can buy one. Since this is a gift, you may want to go with something that LOOKS cool (but you're going to pay for it)...

Also, the two airplanes I suggested in my first post are NOT made of Depron or Bluecore -- they're made of EPP, which is MUCH more durable than Depron or Bluecore. EPP is an EXCELLENT material to learn 3D, because it can handle the immanent crashes your boyfriend has in his future!
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:53 PM
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another vote for the DW foamies, the 38" for outdoor, the 28" for indoor.

I am new to 3D myself, I started flying about 16-18 months ago, and just started flying the DW Combat, its built with a 9mm depron fuse and 6mm wings. sure it might not be as tough as an EPP, but I haven't really tested that yet, because it flies so nicely I haven't crashed it yet, I couple of harder landings, but nothing bad yet. I managed to crack the motor mount/fuse connection, but nothing a little 5min epoxy wouldn't fix. and its easy to fix with a little CA and some kicker, and when that starts to get heavy you can replace the entire plane with depron from RCfoam.com, just copy the shape before you build it and you have the plans to make all the parts you need, a box of foam is about $40, and should be enough for entire 4-6 planes
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:03 PM
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3d hobbyshop ebt trainer. or if froggy,the shp.both are extrmely gentle.the ebt more so i imagine..
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If you are looking for a balsa/ply non-foamie plane, the 3DHobbyShop 47" Extra SHP would be a great choice. It was my first 3D balsa/ply plane and it is still going strong. Extremely well built/durable and flat-out one terrific flying plane and a great introduction into 3D. Very forgiving and docile when you need it to be, but capable of just about everything once you are ready.

The first 3 pics are with some extra decals, the last pic is stock. Comes in blue/white as well.
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Old 01-15-2009, 12:55 AM
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3D Hobbies. Can't go wrong with any of them.

If he likes to spend a little time at the building table, then no doubt get a Skeeter.

http://kalteisen.com/index.html

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Originally Posted by ADChobbystore View Post
If you are looking for a balsa/ply non-foamie plane, the 3DHobbyShop 47" Extra SHP would be a great choice. It was my first 3D balsa/ply plane and it is still going strong. Extremely well built/durable and flat-out one terrific flying plane and a great introduction into 3D. Very forgiving and docile when you need it to be, but capable of just about everything once you are ready.

The first 3 pics are with some extra decals, the last pic is stock. Comes in blue/white as well.
Ill second the 3DHS 47" SHP.....I have foamies but nothing beats the balsa planes for me
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Old 01-15-2009, 02:26 AM
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I thow in +3 for the 3DHS 47" SHP, you can also get a free download for Realflight of this plane to practice with.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:14 AM
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Oh geez....I should be smart and go the cheap/smart/safe/less sweaty palms route as its my first 3D plane.....but the 3DH Extra just looks like a blast! I was reading up on it that it makes a great sport plane also and can be tuned slowly to progress into beginner 3D all the way to advanced.......*Drool*

For those that have had the experience with it is the power system the recommend the best bet?

Also where is the realflight download available at?
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:56 AM
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You can't go wrong with the 3DH recommended power systems. On a 3s setup (2200-2600mah) the new 103G Omega motor from 3DH or the Torque 2818T-900 on an APC 13x6.5E would be fantastic. Anything from a 40-55amp ESC would be a good match. 45-55 to have a little head room.

It is a great sport plane on low rates, and will do anything you want on high rates. Very easy to hover and is an all around solid/stable flyer.

RealFlight download is available at knifeedge.com - it's not perfect in terms of flying characteristics, but it works.
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Old 01-15-2009, 05:00 AM
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i'd recommend the 48" dw foamies juka. it must be the easiest plane to 3d ever built. bigger than your average foamie so it moves slower and gives you more time to react. since its bigger, its easier to keep a good visual on it. i'd say it flies like a 50cc 3d ship.
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:46 AM
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Check out this plane

Its was designed by my friend leadfeather of the RC groups

The plane can be built using 1 single sheet of 1.3# 9mm EPP foam 18 x 36
the plane uses a Bluewonder motor 1300kv version
GWS 8040-9050 prop
10amp brushless esc
3 towerpro SG-50 type servos
gws 4 channel receiver
battery use is a 2 cell 7.4 volt 300-600 lipo pack


you can download the free plans on my site www.sdparkflyers.com



Picture of my build.
Sharpies were used for Color AUW without pack is only 5.1 oz
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