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Old 09-01-2009, 02:44 PM
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Okay, excellent..that helps a lot guys..so you both thing the WH is way better than the wing dragon..?

also, I have read more on the wildhawk and people say the aerobird 3 is a better wildhawk..or the wildhawk is a poor man's aerobird 3..any opinion on those two? there is a 10 dollar difference

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HBZ3600 (dont look at the price)

or the firebird commander which seems to be a weaker twin
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:52 PM
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You cannot compare the Firebird Commander, it is only a 2 channel plane. Stay away from anything less than three channels. In the 2 hcannel your throttle controls elevation, not a control surface like the 3 channel using elevator, rudder and throttle.

The Aerobird 3 is good, but more expensive. If your on a budget the wildhawk will be fine for now.
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:55 PM
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whoops double typed
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Old 09-01-2009, 03:08 PM
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well i think im able to get the aerobird 3 for 88 or something, just a 10 dollar increase..so assuming i can afford it, what would you think is better..between the wildhawk, aerobird 3 and wing dragon
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Old 09-01-2009, 03:10 PM
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At the risk of sounding negative, and trying to talk you out of something... (not my intentions at all)

There is one thing with this hobby that you need to understand, and understand quickly before you drop your money. This hobby can be expensive. It's not a cheap one, that's for sure. If you only fly the Wild Hawk, and stick strictly to it, you WILL need, props, and batteries at some point. Also, the motor will not last forever, and you WILL crash it at some point. These are future expenses that you need to understand. As you grow, the items get more expensive and you will look at better planes. However, as you grow, you will usually crash less often, so that expense drops. Please don't think that I'm trying to talk you out of the hobby, I'm just trying to help you understand that this is really not a hobby that is cheap. And to use something that Firemanbill likes to tell people:

Quality counts in this hobby!

Cheaper is rarely better. Now, if you think you really may be interested in this hobby and may be able to stick with it, both financially and time wise, there are other alternatives that will get you in the game at a lower cost, but with quality. There are a lot of people selling used Quality transmitters and receivers on the 72mhz band. I personally use 72mhz without problems as long as I follow the rules of quality control. I personally stay with JR radios (spektrum too as a sub of JR) but Futaba is a good radio too. I do not trust the "unbranded" radios that you see floating around. I like KNOWING that I can pick up my phone and call Horizon Hobbies if I have a problem with my radio. You can't do that with "brand x" radios.

If you are serious, here is my suggestion to you:

Look for a used 72mhz 4 or 6 channel radio with receiver if possible. Can be done. Throw out a wanted Ad here or RCG.

Plane Suggestion:

Slow Stick: http://www.advantagehobby.com/produc...5&cat=0&page=1& Join thier "club" and get 5% off of the purchase. $25.19 plus $4.95 shipping.

Motor, ESC:
http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...s-Motor/Detail $19.95

Servos:
http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...--9g-TP/Detail $5.95 each, need 2

Props:
http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...rs-FIVE/Detail $9.40 for 5 of them

Prop Saver: (not need but suggested to save on props)
http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...r-3.0mm/Detail $2.95

Everything from headuprc is $2 shipping no matter how big the order. So order it all at once and save money.

Everything I listed will come to about $75.08 Shipped

This leaves a battery and radio system. Yes, it will add up to a bit more than you were looking to spend, but its good stuff. The wonderful thing about the SlowStick is not only is it a good trainer plane, but if you crash it and totally destroy it, as long as the electronics are undamaged, $25 and you have an entirely new airplane. Nothing out there beats that PERIOD.
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Old 09-01-2009, 03:19 PM
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Good post IH and great advice. I just didn't have the time to post it all up. That would be a good way to go, especially if you have some help in getting it all set up. That can be frustrating at times for a beginner as well.

Either way you go you will get off the ground. keeping it there is the hard part at first. Good luck.
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Old 09-01-2009, 03:22 PM
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i agree with your point about the slow stick, bt the reason why i wanted to WH is it is more "all-in-one"..and since i have to travel half way across the world it makes it easier to carry with...i shall look into that though..also could you please educate me a little on transmitters? i;m still reading up on that...what sort of frequencies do we get and what do they do
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Old 09-01-2009, 03:24 PM
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okay nevermind..i got information on it..still doing a bit reading..i do know the trasmitter on the WH is not good...but personally would you prefer the aerobird 3 or wildhawk (sorry for being adamant)
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Old 09-01-2009, 03:26 PM
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Only two types for Aircraft MHz and 2.4GHz

72 requires the use of one specific channel within that frequency band. If someone else turns on with the same channel you will have a conflict and it is usually fatal for the one in the air. That is called getting shot down.

2.4 automatically selects the channels for you within that band. Different brands have different methods but basically the Transmitter and receiver are bound together and will not get interfered with by other 2.4 radios.

Some cheaper models have 27mhz but it is not the band of choice for flying aircraft.
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Old 09-01-2009, 03:28 PM
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I agree with the comments about quality matters.
But I have a slightly different take on it to a degree.

I am the sort of person who goes in to a casino (rarely) and never expects to see that $50 again. If I happen to win some money, hey that was great. But I play 1 penny slots and have fun with the double up and make it the experience of having a fun different time, not going to win bucket loads of money.

Now I also apply this same principal to my first aircraft.
It will crash, many times (never my fault ...lol)
So I definately look for an aircraft I can have fun with, that can take a beating and be repaired numerous times before it is stripped down for parts.

Although the Wild Hawk is a good cheap price, it is normal styrofoam. A semi bad landing will destroy it. Yes you can tape it up as per the suggestions, but that is a lot of extra taping and padding and weight you are adding on.
Now for $10 more you are able to get the Aerobird 3, which apart for a strip of tape on the wings, and a reinforcement on the boom near the tailerons, you will have a far superior aircraft that will handle rough landings better. Plus you can buy the parts to replace if damaged (i.e. wings, fuse, etc)

I have heard nothing but praise for the Aerobird 3.
I hear mixed things about the Wild Hawk though.
If Aerobird 3 was it's original $110 price, then I would be hesitant to recommend, but since you can get it $10 more than the Wild Hawk, you would be barking mad not to jump at it.

And once you have got learning on the Aerobird 3 down to an art, you can look at buying a full aerilon trainer as ARF, with a DX6i or equivalent Tx that you will keep for all future aircraft.
No use going too expensive yet until the bug bites.
And believe me, it will bite....
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Old 09-01-2009, 03:32 PM
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hey..thanks..well..i just googled it..here's the link

http://atomic-enterprises-inc.amazon...B000NUO7KG.htm

not sure about the company..buy 88.24 isnt too bad
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Old 09-01-2009, 03:39 PM
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Never heard of these guys, looks to be a small company based on the Amazon.com provided page.

I still think you'd be better off with the Wild Hawk from Nitroplanes or Raidentech. I bought my very first plane from these guys and they are still around, still supporting the customer.
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Old 09-01-2009, 03:39 PM
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ebay has it for 103-104 inclusive of shipping
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Old 09-01-2009, 03:40 PM
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well...okay..i guess i'll do raidentech.i am headed to city of industry anyway i can save shipping buy collecting it there
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Old 09-02-2009, 02:23 AM
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Let's face it, pawantk, everybody's favorite trainer plane is the one they first learned to fly with.
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Old 09-02-2009, 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Marc View Post
Let's face it, pawantk, everybody's favorite trainer plane is the one they first learned to fly with.

Not really. I learned to fly on the Shun-Da Accipiter Baddius

http://www.raidentech.com/3rareaircsae.html

It was a hoot for sure. Then I went to a GWS Slow Stick and then the Beaver.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:09 AM
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I learned on a HZ Supercub. I picked up the Slow Stick as plane #3 or 4. After seeing it flown, I wanted one for a kick back and relax plane. I have not regretted it one bit. I'm thinking about putting a camera on it. Seems like fun.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:39 AM
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Well the plane I learned on isnt around anymore, but it was a good trainer.
The Cox Sportavia.
A shame too as it would do well as a 3ch electric now days. Back then it was 2ch with a QRC .049 engine that ran full throttle till the tank was empty. Then you soared around a bit, then landed. I wore it out, epoxied it so many times it finally got too heavy to fly. And i had worn out the starter spring and it broke, then it was flip,flip,flip yer fingers off.

But on subject here, do yourself a favor and make your first plane a proven and reliable product. The HZ Super Cub like has been advised a thousand times here at WF and anywhere else. Wer'e only talking another 60 bucks, just one less nite out to dinner with the family this month.

A wise fella once told me, "It doesnt make sense to pay too much for something, but its absoloutely stupid to pay too little."
You will in all probability end up spending twice as much or more, having to go back and buy the one you should have in the first place anyway.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by firemanbill View Post
I learned to fly on the Shun-Da Accipiter Baddius
That's really interesting - I found a very similar aircraft at a LHS "garage sale" that was made in Germany, only it has cantilevered wings. Same idea, though - a belly-lander/hand-launcher with a hard plastic fuse. No ailerons. I should post some pictures.
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wrather1 View Post
That's really interesting - I found a very similar aircraft at a LHS "garage sale" that was made in Germany, only it has cantilevered wings. Same idea, though - a belly-lander/hand-launcher with a hard plastic fuse. No ailerons. I should post some pictures.
They make a polyhedral wing for them too. We still have one hanging from our garage ceiling. We keep saying (Me and my Son) that we are going to put a Spektrum Rx in it and fly it again.

We may just have to do that now.
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