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Old 10-29-2019, 11:09 AM
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Hi Everyone I just had to pass this info along, I had a sulfated weak car battery that would only pull 120 Amps when loaded down to 9.6 Volts, I have a 500 amp Carbon pile Battery tester, I know Car batteries get sulfated over time and get weak, but 85% of car batteries can be Rejuvinated to like new performance, they just need to be desulfanated, I tried a few Desulfanators untill I found one that works pratically over night, It brought back a car battery from 120 Amps to 400 Amps after being desulfated, most desulfanators on the market take 1 to 2 weeks to work, Heck with That I found one that works pratically over night, its a Multi voltage 12v to 72v 4 Amp desulfanator and it works Great, I bought 2 of them Tried and Tested by Me and I am Hard to Please LOL here it is if your interested, These work in Conjunction with a Battery charger, its only $ 16.11 and free shipping Take care, Chellie

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Hey Chellie, thanks for that info. As a retired mechanic I knew there were a few things that claimed to achieve that but I didn't have any success with any of them.
I have just replaced 3 of my batteries. (Tractor, car, Ride-on mower) and still need another one for a ute.
Unfortunately the link you provided does not ship to Australia so I will have to look further to see if I can locate one.
I also have 2 load testers that I frequently check my batteries with. My charger is capable of 50 amps.
Cheers and appreciate your 'research'.

EDIT: Just had a look around and there are some that look the same but are only 2 amp 200 Ah so just watch what you are buying. The 4 amp 400Ah ones are about $22 Au. with free postage.
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Old 10-31-2019, 08:36 AM
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Hi Panther Yes get the 4 amp one, I have a Infinitum desulfanator and people said they take forever to Desulfer a battery, they are right, they work but they are slow to work, there is a car/truck battery store near me, and they desulfer batteries and sell them, the recon batteries i get from them all load test over 400 amps,
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Old 10-31-2019, 08:55 AM
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I was Talking with the Guy at the Battery store, and he said that it normally takes a day to recondition a sulfated battery, he said that they recondition batteries with a charger/battery conditioner desulfanator set at 2 amps, I have a old 6 amp battery charger that I use with the Desulfanator, and I was shocked that I was able to restore a battery this fast, it works as good as the High Priced Commercial units

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Old 10-31-2019, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Panther View Post
Hey Chellie, thanks for that info. As a retired mechanic I knew there were a few things that claimed to achieve that but I didn't have any success with any of them.
I have just replaced 3 of my batteries. (Tractor, car, Ride-on mower) and still need another one for a ute.
Unfortunately the link you provided does not ship to Australia so I will have to look further to see if I can locate one.
I also have 2 load testers that I frequently check my batteries with. My charger is capable of 50 amps.
Cheers and appreciate your 'research'.

EDIT: Just had a look around and there are some that look the same but are only 2 amp 200 Ah so just watch what you are buying. The 4 amp 400Ah ones are about $22 Au. with free postage.
Hi use Low Amps 2 to 6 amps to desulfanate a battery with, I was desulfanation 2 batteries at the same time, one desulfanator is the one i show and the other is a Infinitum desulfanator that I Paid $40.00 for, and the 17.00 4 amp desulfanator works the best, it even ges a little warm when being used, and that tells me it working good as where the infinitum stays cool to the touch. that tells me its not working very hard.
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Cheers Chellie. Thanks, all good info from our resident expert!
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it works great
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Years ago in UK - they used to sell 'Magic Battery Reviver' fluid. Basically they gave a long story about 'gunge' that collects in bottom of battery cases between the cells and slowly builds up killing the battery eventually.

You poured this stuff into each cell and Voila - the gunge was dissolved and cells came back to life. It actually worked but it was a very short remedy. It did not take long for that gunge to drop back out and back to square 'zero'.

Of course one thing they forgot to mention was why the gunge !! And the plates themselves buckling ... failing to reverse the 'plating' etc.

I hope Chellie - your gear gives longer term results than that wonder fluid !!

I think you are just old enough to remember all those wonder additives we could put in our cars .... like the Teflon fluid that meant even if our car had no engine oil - it would run a million miles !! The 'Spitfire' starters that would g'tee winter starts when your normal sparkers give out ... there were loads of them !!
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Hi Nigel Yes I remember all those Battery remedies , they sell epsom salt diluted with water and dyed blue LOL it works but not for very long, The frequency desulfanators work the best, The armed forces use them, there are battery companies that sell reconditioned batteries that have been desulfanated and they work great, the reconditioned batteries are like new, I have had no issues with them, and they all test like new, I buy group 24 Reconditioned batteries for $30.00 and group 27 batteries for $40.00 each, a new battery of this size cost about $120.00 each, heck with that Noise what i do is buy a new battery for my Vehicles, pay the core charge and turn the old battery in for a reconditioned battery, But now I am able to recondition my own Batteries with the 4 Amp desulfanator that I bought, on my solar generator, I have 8 Car batteries, hooked in Series Parallel for 24V and 4 groups of 24V batteries, I leave the 4 amp Desulfanator on the Battery Banks 24/7 so I should always have fresh Charged Batteries I had a solar company come over to my House to install 8 Additional solar panels on my roof, and the Installers were very surprised that a Gal was able to Make a portable solar generating system that worked great They did not know that I am a NERD LOL
There are some new Oil additives that I am Impressed with, one is Best Line, here is a video of it being tested. Take care, Chellie

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You know that Oil is my business and blending is part of it ... I currently have over 120 different additives in my 'usual' inventory and about 60 more that are occasional.

There's not much I cannot figure out in that line !!!
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Hi Nigel Most people dont know that motor oil does not wear out, It just gets dirty and the Additives wear out, Used motor oil is more slippery than new oil because you dont have all the crystals in the old oil, a simple test of this is to rub old motor oil between your fingers and new oil between your fingers, you can feel the crystals in the new eng oil, I have been told this from a lot of people that are oil experts and I have to agree with them
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Old 11-20-2019, 12:51 AM
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I also like the Frantz toilet paper oil Filter they work great, I saw a Demo at a fair years ago, they had a clear reservoir filled with clean oil with a oil pump and a Frantz oil filter, they would circulate the oil then add some dirty oil to the clean oil, the oil would turn dirty then in short order, the oil would be crystal clean again.
My friend of 50 Years has a 1964 chevy impala with a 283 V8 engine, he has a Frantz oil filter in it, he would change the toilet paper filter and the original oil filter once every 5000 miles, he did not drain out the old oil, but just added about 2 quarts of new oil to bring the oil level back up and replenish the oil additives.
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Chellie ... lub oil ... there's a lot more to it than just clean. The oil itself starts to become acidic ... it also starts to lose viscosity ... it loses its ability to 'stick' to surfaces ... its water content increases ... I could fill a whole page of what happens to oil ...

There's a whole industry devoted to recycling engine oils ... and a lot of tech goes into it. To reduce acidity .. reduce moisture ... get visco back up etc. Even then that recycled oil is nowhere near as good as the 'virgin' stuff.

Funny thing is - the job I do and knowledge I have - I am the worlds worst at having my car serviced .. oil changes etc are once in a blue moon !! But I suffered for it not so long ago.

I drive a Volvo XC70 with T5 programming. It has the VVT system like many cars today. The car started playing games while idling ... engine would not idle smoothly ... it kept coughing / speeding up / slowing down ... when starting off - it would sometimes jump forward ..
Dealer spent ages with it and finally we understood that the VVT was intermittent. I had a choice ... second hand or wait for new from factory. Trying to get the right one second hand was driving me nuts ... so I asked the dealer if it was possible to refurbish the old.
He took it apart in front of me ... and it was all gunged up .. to me it looked like the typical lub oil gunge after years of neglect !!

We agreed that he would clean it all up .. refit and test.

The car has now been running sweet as new for 2 years now. The gunge was in fact collected in the VVT case from the engine oil - I had failed to change for ***** !!
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Hi Nigel Yes your right about oil getting acidic, and sulfur building up, when i was working as a Fleet Tech. we had a sales person come in, he had a additive for both the diesel fuel and oil, I believe it was called Essential lube, it would help to regulate the Sulfur in the diesel fuel, I understand that the fuel oil from the Middle east has a high Sulfur content in it, the additive was also used by the rail road in there locomotive diesel engines, he used the oil/fuel additive in his 1950 Plymouth 6 cyl. he had over 1 Million miles on that original engine using the additive that he was selling, he said that once in a while he had the seals and gaskets in the engine replaced because they got worn out, but thats about all he did to the engine, the toilet paper filter would remove the water in the oil and hopefully the acid in the oil, My 1973 Ford Ranchero with a 302 ford V 8 had over 400,000 miles on the original engine and the heads have never been removed, It was still running when I tore down the engine, I just felt sorry for the Engine so i overhauled it The Machine shop owner said that he never saw a engine with 0.010 tapper in a engine cyl. before It was time, I had it bored out 0.030 new pistons, crank, cam, valves and valve seats, it should be good for another 400,000 to 500,000 miles now I will be using the best line oil additive in the motor oil, maybe i might get 1 million miles out of that Ford engine if I live long enough LOL
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We Have a saying here in America about Volvos , Volvos will run Forever, but they Will never run right LOL
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I don't know who told you Sulphur in oil is worse from Middle East ... Sulphur is in EVERY crude ... and it varies depending on the strata its recovered from. There are SWEET and SOUR crudes from EVERY producing country in the world. USA has some bad Sour Crudes (Sweet is low Sulphur ... Sour is High).

Sulphur can only be removed in Refining processing - it is IMPOSSIBLE to remove from any refined product without putting back to refinery to 'wash it out'.

Second - the reduction of sulphur in Diesel and Gasoline led to companys such as mine increasing work in supplying / injecting additives to the fuels to regain lubricity properties. ie Sulphur reduction in diesel led to early design fuel pumps failing as the diesel was 'dry'. We supplied special Lubricity additive to compensate. This is added to final product before distribution to markets. Gasoline was a bit different as Gasoline is a 'dry' product ... dry is a term for its lack of lubricating ... you can tell by rubbing between fingers - the difference of agricultural high sulphur diesel and Ultra Low Sulphur road diesel .. with gasoline it was more change of pump materials.

Your friend was making no difference what so ever to sulphur content in fuel or oil ... if he was - then I'd like to have some of it ... because its the Holy Grail in the Oil business to reduce sulphur in product.... just not possible outside of refining process. I am offered daily thousands of tons of medium sulphur diesel and whether I can correct the sulphur content to sell ... you think I would turn down such an offer if it was possible ??

There are a few products that assist fuels and lub oils - but given modern engines - its money spent for nothing. They are only really of use in old version engines.

I could upload a presentation of my company - but it has contact details etc. which I don't want 'bots' picking up etc. ....

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