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Old 12-01-2018, 09:45 AM   #1
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Default Trying to liven things up !! What discontinued model would you like to see back ?

Many of us have grown up through evolution of the RC world ... and can remember exceptional models that hold special place in each individuals hearts.

I find it sad actually that many of them just stop and fade ... no-one picks up the design to resurrect.

I have a series of models that I hold dear in memory but try as I might can never get another ... I am sure some UK guy has one or two secreted away in their 'dungeons' ...

Rojair Models

I had their Spitfire 24 and FW190 ... both brilliant flyers and the build format was a winner. Foam veneered wings, built up fuselage with foam veneered topdecks to give the shape. Glow 20 power but with an Enya or similar cooking 35 - were superb.

Even the plans are hard to find - the Hippocket and other online sites have bad thumbnails only ... that cannot be blown up to size.

Other classics from my UK days ... PANIC Biplane ... the name PANIC is so correct !!

Phil Ramsay Mini Pitts - possibly the best Pitts model ever ...

Pilot Models EZ series ...

Pilot Models Nieuport 28 - an absolute cow on the ground with that short nose moment - but a beaut in the air.

Pilot Models Zlin Akrobat - another masterpiece ...

So many ... so Guys and Gals ... what about yours ...

I know the above are from the Fuel days ... but all could be easily Electrified if available today.

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Old 12-01-2018, 06:32 PM   #2
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Even though I never flew pattern, or even fixed wing: Hanno Prettner's Curare, 20/40/60.

Kitted by Pilot back then???

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Old 12-01-2018, 06:37 PM   #3
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The Curare .... marvelous machine ... designed by Hanno and Father team.

Hippocket and various have the full plans ....

One of our club members has built one and flies it occasionally.

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Old 12-01-2018, 11:36 PM   #4
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Wonder if the UHU is still out there. It was the plane I banged up a lot learning how to fly. The EPP Push-E-Cat is what really got me in the air.

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Old 12-02-2018, 03:55 AM   #5
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I always wanted a Midwest StrikeMaster or Airtronics Jetfire. No idea why I didn't buy them when still available. As luck would have it I'll be building a prototype short kit cut of the Jetfire redrawn and cut by a very well known RC Groups member. The kit should be here next week. Can't wait! Then I'll get hot on finding a StrikeMaster kit or short kit.



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I have to say that I am planning on adding a larger Laser bed machine to my new workshop. There are so many classic models I would like to create from plans.

The models that had foam veneered parts ... I have an auto foam cutter bed to setup as well.

If I can get a plan ... then worlds my oyster !

For those where shipping and costs are acceptable .. I will offer to others.

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Old 12-03-2018, 02:48 AM   #7
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I would like to see the Pica line revived. They sure had some pretty stuff.

Still have the YMF-5 Waco. Would like to build a duelist.

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Originally Posted by Turbojoe View Post
I always wanted a Midwest StrikeMaster or Airtronics Jetfire. No idea why I didn't buy them when still available. As luck would have it I'll be building a prototype short kit cut of the Jetfire redrawn and cut by a very well known RC Groups member. The kit should be here next week. Can't wait! Then I'll get hot on finding a StrikeMaster kit or short kit.



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Here are plans for the Strikemaster, I built one from plans before I could get a kit. Great flying plane, but I carved the fuse down too far and a hard landing broke it off. Totally my fault, if I had glassed the fuse it would be okay. I will fix it some day.


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I wish the Norm Page Mach 1, was available, I have a kit and I have a friend that keeps trying to buy it from me.


I know there are some different versions of it around, but they are not what he wants.

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Here are plans for the Strikemaster, I built one form plans before I could get a kit. Great flying plane, but I carved the fuse down too far and a hard landing broke it off. Totally my fault, if I had glassed the fuse it would be okay. I will fix it some day.


https://aerofred.com/details.php?image_id=91236

I've had the plan file for a while and I know someone drew up plans for a built up wing. I may have it on one of the hard drives. If all else fails the short kit is available here. LINK I cringe when I look at the price though. The wing at $35.00 is doable but look at the .pdf of the short kit parts. $80.00 for THAT?!! No way in hell. I'll cut the parts myself.......


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I think with the advent of Foam models ... the urge to cut and build as traditional is only with old die-hard farts like me.
And I have to admit that often - I look at the harder parts such as the cowls to make and it puts me off building.

Like many others - I have married the two conventions. Wood formers, and foam sheet. Even to rebuilding wings etc. with foam ribs backing up the shattered balsa ones.

Anyway ... hopefully it will not be too long before I get into my new workshop and start putting together some of the old classics.

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I'm in agreement to a certain degree with you Nigel.

Not everyone can afford basic build tools nor the space required to build wood planes though.
Some folks like me just don't care too build from wood kits or scratch. I have most of the skills. But coverings.... Well no matter how much I've tried, that skill set eluded me.

But I have found a love to build EPP foamies from kits and add my own electronics. I especially enjoy deviations from the plans. "hey I can improve on this design better" .

My most recent has taken me about 12 hours over 3 days (cold weather in the garage slows down everything even me). I've built this same model before and it generally never takes more than 2 hours. Man I hope my efforts pay off.

Interesting story behind this particular EPP model is that it used to be very popular here on wattflyer about 8 years ago. One particular guy was making the kits out of Alabama. Now due to life and physical issues I haven't been flying for 8 years. The models I had sat in a hot Florida shed all this time. Servos rusted solid, wings warped....etc. Even my TX failed to survive.

But recently I went to the website to order one kit and the credit card wouldn't process. So I sent the guy an email and he said due to the lack of business, maintaining the credit card side was no longer financially viable. But he still accepted PayPal. But I asked him why things went so sour there.

In short.... "NOBODY WANTS TO BUILD ANYMORE.
As people have become increasingly dependent on convenience and instant on demand lifestyles, it's just easier and faster to get in the air simply by purchasing a fully assembled EPO plane from Horizon, eflight just to name a few.
Personally these companies are the Walmarts of the hobby in my opinion often wiping out the smaller guys in the name of fast and easy convenience. WHAT ARE WE TEACHING OUR KIDS and what are they losing? Skills, joy of doing something themselves. They can't percolate their own coffee and most of em don't know what percolated coffee is. They only know Starbucks and Kurieg.

Tomorrows generation won't even know how to cook let alone boil water thanks to fast food giants and restaurants on every corner.

I certainly hope that The Superfly doesn't fizzle away in obscurity. As it is I was his first sale in a few years, I'm guessing.

It's a fun build and a superior flyer, practically turns on a dime. Harriers beautifully. It's a great platform to teach a kid to build and fly as well. Even Laine from Laines planes (he's a speed freak) loves to take out a Superfly and go hot dogging. He's even producing a similar model out of wood for combat.

Superfly is on the verge of becoming a dinosaur. But with renewable interest we can make em fun and popular again.

Get the kids away from their phones, game pads and Xbox's and take em flying instead.

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In short.... "NOBODY WANTS TO BUILD ANYMORE.

Deleted my post. After a day of not being able to find an LHS that stocked what I as a builder needed I was pretty pi$$ed off. I went way overboard in my rant and it was best just to delete it and move on.


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Starting to think....Should we now split the R/C hobby? bARF's/builders forums/threads?


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Joe, I've got two sheets of 1/4" balsa. If you want them, come get them.

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4 x 30.25 (end cut off for a project long forgotten)
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Joe, I've got two sheets of 1/4" balsa. If you want them, come get them.

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66 gr 2 1/4 oz Bud Nosen

4 x 30.25 (end cut off for a project long forgotten)
47 gr 1 5/8 oz Midwest

I'm on the Tempe/Mesa line just north of Southern Ave. PM me for my phone and address.
Many thanks but I picked up two 1/4" sheets at Alliance R/C hobbies today. Not the best wood but I can make it work if I cut out all the bad spots.



Hey, are you Miguel that used to fly with us at D&D Hobbies parking lot many, many years ago with the cool R/C hang gliders?



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Many thanks but I picked up two 1/4" sheets at Alliance R/C hobbies today. Not the best wood but I can make it work if I cut out all the bad spots.



Hey, are you Miguel that used to fly with us at D&D Hobbies parking lot many, many years ago with the cool R/C hang gliders?



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Nope, not Miguel.

I'm the guy who flew the .049 balsa pulse rudder jobbies at MCC in the 1970s. Got out of the hobby when MCC closed the field and was wrapped up in career and kids until about five years ago. Interest has been in building the older designs with REM, more interested in building and never regained whatever competency I had in flying.

Right now I have a Galloping Ghost actuator that needs a plane. Have the electronics, the wood, and the silk and nitrate dope, just haven't put the time together to build. Considering the Dave Platt design Half Tone.

Good luck with you projects.

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