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Old 05-25-2010, 02:13 AM
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Looking good Dave ! ! !



Everyone needs a up close and personal view of your excellent work!



Don't forget to secure this so it does not "shake loose". For a 16th scale you did a fabulous job replicating the cockpit.
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:34 PM
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Default Finished Pilot/Copilot 'Station'

Hi B-47ers!

I'm calling it quits on the pilot/copilot installation: couple of photos attached.

I've installed the wind screen, and will install the main canopy next; photos coming in a few days.

Cheers,

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Old 05-31-2010, 01:11 AM
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Hi B-47ers!

I've pretty well completed the canopy; 3 photos attached. For once I decided to use my brain and not attach the canopy to the frame until the model is more/less complete. It seems to fit fairly well, but I think it is a tad too large - my plug was a bit oversize, I guess. However, it's no big deal, and it looks pretty good.

More later,

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Old 05-31-2010, 02:33 AM
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This is looking really good!
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:37 AM
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Hi B-47ers!

I've added some 'black boxes' and the CRT (??) display/control for the copilot's gunnery duty to the area behind the copilot's seat; photo attached.

I need to add some additional panels to the RH side of the pilot's and copilot's station; and to the LH side of the cockpit 'stairway'/tunnel to the forward observer's compartment. This will complete the cockpit are to the extent I intend to detail these areas.

More later; cheers,

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Old 06-03-2010, 02:17 PM
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O.C...Dave,

Its looking real Nice attention to detail in the tub. With it that size its challenging
to keep details from breaking off what you have already completed as you move back
and forth to and from the tub position in the fuselage.

Question...I forget whether you are using LED lighting in multiple colors within your
cockpit. Your eye magnet will draw giggles of wonder from kids of all ages as if they
were looking under their family Christmas tree... ;^) A little Rudolph goes a long long
way.

Can't wait to see it finished "outside" the fuselage in a 360 degree photo expos'e
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Old 06-05-2010, 06:45 PM
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Hi Ed!

Nope - no LED's - too complicated for my limited skills!! I'll sure be interested to see your light up when you get to the 'build' stage.

Cheers,

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Old 06-06-2010, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Capt. Midnight View Post
Hi Ed! Nope - no LED's - too complicated for my limited skills!! I'll sure be interested to see yours light up when you get to the 'build' stage. Cheers, Dave P.
The build stage can not begin until the dims are established for the BAC drawing.

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Old 06-14-2010, 06:04 PM
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Dave,

I have never found a description of a dome sitting on top of the cannon control panel behind the co-pilot . Its unlikely to be a rotating beacon. No need to place a loop antenna in a shielded dome.

Gave up and decided you had to know since you sat ahead of it...

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Old 06-15-2010, 01:15 AM
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Dave,

I just found what it is. The radio compass loop antenna. I dove back into the flight manual and found
it in the layout description of the 20mm cannon control station.

Glass dome is sealed to retain nitrogen gas the loop radio compass is surrounded by. I assume the
temperature gradiant differential is the intent with this. The antenna's accuracy would go down with
a rise in temperature....the B-47's greenhouse was definately HOT!

The other photos I have of it left the impression it had an andonized aluminum cover. Note the RCAF
data plate on the case.

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Old 06-16-2010, 03:24 AM
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Hi Ed!

Sorry for the delay in responding. As far as I can determine, that little puppy is the AN/ARC-6 antenna assembly; here's a website that has a photo of it:


http://www.blujay.com/item/Aircraft-...060600-1466838

Cheers,

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Old 07-05-2010, 05:58 AM
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Hi B-47ers!

I've been busy nursing my wife (following pancreatic cancer surgery), so have had very little time for the model. Nevertheless, I think I'm ready to call it quits on the cockpit details - the only way most of them can be seen is if I put in a picture window on the fuselage along side the cockpit ...

Basically, there is very little photographic or other information on the cockpit interior - except for the instrument panels and some details of the side panels for the pilot and copilot; there are some diagrams of the bomb/nav guy's hangout, and some other fleeting shots of some areas, but no comprehensive info on the interior of the crew areas. Probably FliteMetal has found all sorts of stuff, but, since most of it can't be seen anyway, I've just ad-libbed some of it, and that will have to do.

I've attached a couple of shots of the bits and pieces that, hopefully, will all fit together when I try to stuff them into the model. I'll let you know if they all fit.

Cheers,

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Old 07-05-2010, 02:18 PM
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Dave,

First of all you and your wife are in our thoughts and prayers.

You've done an excellent job on that cockpit and I was shocked that you were doing a nose
station. While I have photos of the bomb/nav desk area it is as you say...next to impossible
to be appreciated since there are very small windows up there.

I'll attach several so folks can see what little room the bomb/nav had in his area. Its amazing
what kids found in their corn flake boxes to play with... Perhaps a controller for their Sugar
Pops!

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Old 07-05-2010, 09:13 PM
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Hi Ed!

Many thanks for the sooper references on the observer/navigator's station! I had a few of them, but, as usual, you always have a great set of reference material.

One thing I have not been able to pin down is whether the B-47E observer/navigator station actually had 'windows' - some photos of this configuration seem to show a 'window' in the center of the emergency access hatch(es??), but it isn't clear whether what appear to be 'windows' are just material that can be broken from the outside to gain access in an emergency.

Cheers,

Dave P.
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Dave, along with Ed, you have done a fantastic job on your B-47. I love the interchange of ideas between you two. LOL. HAL the computer was very subtle but funny.

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Old 07-06-2010, 02:00 AM
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Hi Ed! as usual, you always have a great set of reference material. One thing I have not been able to pin down is whether the B-47E observer/navigator station actually had 'windows' Dave P.
Tadaaaa!



Note the side glass above. with what you have already engineered it would look good with
some bright LED's inside the bomb/nav area. A real kick butt when someone looks inside
The crowds will be enormous at the contests you go to.

My 10.2% front is is now looking like it will be fiber glass from a female mold instead of vested in a male mold process. I will build out the bomb/nav station with appropriate lighting since I
am thinking I will need ballast up front.



Above you can clearly see the inset of the side glass. In this config there is one on each side. You will see photos with these covered over with plate.



Consistant the side windows remain on all the E and the RB.



Here again the side windows are a recurring presence all the way through the 1953 production of E's.
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Old 07-15-2010, 06:22 AM
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Hi B-47ers!

Apparently the B-47E did have at least one window, probably 2, for the observer/navigator in the forward compartment. Attached is a photo of my first cut at the LH side escape hatch, with the window within it. Will send along additional photos when I get the nose completed.

Cheers,

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Thank you both for this interesting post. I am very interested in Aviation History, and it's a pleasure to follow your project. And study Flite Metals treasure chamber of detailed knowledge.
Hope your wife will have a fast recovery, and you will find more time working on your Aviation Project.
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Thank you both for this interesting post and study Flite Metals treasure chamber of detailed knowledge.
In the words of Hogan's Heros German prison camp guard..."I know nusing, nusing at all!" Just a wee resource from the B-47E documentation...
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Originally Posted by Flite-Metal View Post
In the words of Hogan's Heros German prison camp guard..."I know nusing, nusing at all!" Just a wee resource from the B-47E documentation...
Ed, you have done an absolutely magnificent job of information sharing- both technical and photographic. I know everyone subscribed to this thread will agree.

To Dave, I wish you the best and hope that you and your wife make it throught this difficult time. My thoughts and prayers go out to you.

Bob
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Ed, you have done an absolutely magnificent job of information sharing- both technical and photographic. I know everyone subscribed to this thread will agree. Bob
Bob,

Sharing is what its all about... Not enough of it goes on today.

When I started my 10.2% B-47E thread and began contributing to Dave's I decided this was going to be one time anyone who wanted to replicate our efforts could do so from these two threads. Nothing special about images being shared. Over 80% have come from the internet.

Dave and his wife are in our thoughts and prayers. Dave gets a break now and then to work on his B-47. Lots on his mind these days.
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Old 07-17-2010, 07:20 AM
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Hi B-47ers!

Trying to get accurate dimensions on the Y-4 bombsight and the thing-a-ma-jig above it is impossible ... at least with my limited skills: see photo. there appears to be a little fairing around the optical 'port', so I'll kind of fair that in as best as I can.

The refueling door is next - can't locate a copy of T.O. 1B47E-2-8, but have emailed some obscure USAF outfit to see if there may be an archived copy somewhere. Photos give some general configuration info, but dimensional 'data' (or detailed outline of the door) looks to be equally in the empty set.

More later,

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Does this help? By the way...that thing-a-ma-jig is called radar...a different one than that on the chin.






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Old 07-17-2010, 06:56 PM
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Hi Ed!

Thanks for the photos!!

Yep, I knew the little 'thing-a-ma-jig' was the radar component of the 47's bomb directing set - just a having a little fun.

As far as I can determine, at least some of the B-47Es had the AN/ASB-3 bomb directing set installed. The small tubular protrusion above the optical component was, I believe, the antenna for the AN/APS-23 radar (one of the components of the ASB-3 system); it was manufactured by (at least) Western Electric. I've spent a little time searching on these items, but so far have not found any detailed descriptions. If anyone has any good 'data' on these sets, please let me know.

Cheers,

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Okay. Technical question. How does that flap covering the refueling receptacle open and close? I don't see any mechanical arm or gearing on it (makes sense, as you don't want messy shapes foiling your air flow). Is there gearing or a pinion insided the refueling port cover to crank it into place? I know it is immaterial to modeling this aircraft, but I am really intrigued. See how you've got me interested in this Ed and Dave?
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