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Anyone tried the Glue and Go series from Hobby King ?

Old 12-04-2016, 02:33 AM
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Default Anyone tried the Glue and Go series from Hobby King ?

I keep looking at the Glue and Go series of Foamboard models on Hobby Kings site. Particularly like the Mig 29.

Anyone tried any of them yet ?

The Mad Bird - I built a couple of Angry Birds from plans - but they were terrible flyers ... wonder what HK's version would be like.

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I having a hard time with the HK site lately. Do you have a link ?

I didn't find anything interesting for BF or CM unlike last year.
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https://hobbyking.com/en_us/push-pow...kit-plane.html

I must admit the new site is terrible ! Its driving my tablet nuts !!

I'm fed up with everytime I open the site - I have to reset location, language and currency !!

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Thanks Nigel,

The website is much improved from a couple of weeks ago. Able to order
Mig 29 from I- phone no problem. In fact, was very smoothe. Glad they fixed it. Must have cost them dearly during Black Friday and Cyber Monday.

I've cut out a lot of foam board prop in the slot jobs but I'm getting lazy in my old age. Nothing like a fresh laser cut and painted plane. Already have motor, servos , esc, prop
and rx. Hey, for 25 bucks ?

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Well I ordered the Mig 29 as well .... I have to admit that having all the work done for me is a change.

But I will be using the kit as a set of templates to create a plan. In Latvia I have not found Foamboard yet ... not the DTF as you have in States. I have reason to believe this Mig 29 may be EPP form of FB ?

I have various motors suitable ... I also put a couple of servos in the order + a 25A ESC ...

This will be my first Prop in Slot ... I have always modified plans PiS to rear mounted ... so this will be a new experience.

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Nigel,

Any poster board will do though the Dollar Tree (Cheapie US Store) is popular cause it's about $1-$2 per sheet. It's basically paper with about 3mm of foam sandwiched between. All together forms about 5mm. The kids that do project for school know where to find it. Hot glue works really good on the connecting pieces. Then tape hinges on the elevons. I use Cf across the deck to stiffen. Not sure this plane comes with any or for that matter, the rods, horns, clevises, etc. I, like you, have all that stuff.

I've learned to use a few short lengths of CF or 3mm dia dowel around the nose section glued along the fuse. When you smack them hard into the ground the foam compresses like a crumple zone on a Volvo. LOL. The CF rods help.

I'll probably take the pieces and use them as a template to trace and cut out a replica airframe before I build it.

Interesting that it would be epp.

I should get mine in about a week from the Arkansas warehouse. I saw where a lot of guys were using 3S 2220's 25C lipos. Seems like a heavy battery for these, at least the ones I've built. Don't know. I have an array from 1000mah through 2700mah in 3S. Going with a 6x4 prop on my Grayson Super V2 2200kv. I've typically used 6x4's on all of them

These 'prop in the slot' jobs are really not much different than making a normal pusher plane for which you have made several. It's still a pusher, just that the elevons/tailerons are aft of the motor. Kind of like a mid-engine Porsche versus the rear engine Porsche. Probably go with a 30-40 amp esc I have laying around and a couple of 9g servos from the servo bin.

Easy to underhand toss from fuse without getting nicked by the prop.

Mine are highly maneuverable. Tight loops, flips, you name it. Close-in combat with 3-5 other pilots is a riot. Sounds like a bunch of buzzing bees.

I'll keep you posted on mine

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Just looking at the specs again. Looks like they include a lot.
Plus, 650 x 950 is a nice size. Getting excited about this one.

Cheap is good.

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Originally Posted by dahawk View Post
Just looking at the specs again. Looks like they include a lot.
Plus, 650 x 950 is a nice size. Getting excited about this one.

Cheap is good.

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When you add up the items - its not a bad deal at all.

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I agree. Plus the time involved for accurate cuts and detailing. I don't have a CNC or laser. Yes sir ! I hope they keep them coming.
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Even with my laser - it would be hard to compete on price.

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Nigel,

Mine arrived today. Well packaged and protected from warping. Nice colour ( color) manual with build instructions. They include everything: Horns with easy connectors, rods, CF, motor mount. Its all there and nicely painted. This is not EPP. They call it PP.

The laser cuts are very neat. This will go together quickly. Unfortunately, I'm relegated to the garage and it's cold out there. Next week looks okay though

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Nigel,

Mine is ready to fly. Just need to charge the new 3S 2200mah Zippy I bought with the kit. Plane goes to together easily. No big surprises. Used a combination of model glue( Beacons), 'Welders' glue and Hot glue. As straightforward as it gets. Always a little bit of a pain to get the tape hinges correct. Had to play around with that for a bit.

Next is to find the time and weather to fly this little gem.

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Looking forward to report .... especially CoG and how much movement you gave it ....

Good luck !

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Originally Posted by solentlife View Post
Looking forward to report .... especially CoG and how much movement you gave it ....

Good luck !

Nigel
Hi Nigel and Everyone on Wattflyers Those Profile plane fly very well, I have had a few planes of that design, belive it or not, they tend to have a lot of Drag to them, that surprised me about the design, use the 6" prop and a 2500kv motor with a 40 amp esc, they need all the power and thrust they can get


Specs:
Length: 950mm
Wingspan:650mm
Weight: 180g

Requires: (Recommended)
Motor: 2208 - 2212size 2000-2600kv
ESC: 20-40A
Servos: 9g x 2
Prop: 5-6 inch
Battery: 2200mah 3S

Customer Rated schuva
Test flight of Hobbyking Mig-29 foambard kit.

Motor - BL 2208 2150KV (From Floater Jet glider plane)
ESC - 30A
Servo - 2 x 9g
Battery - 2200mah 3s 25c
Propeller - 6x4

Verdict:

Pros
Easy to fly
It can glide
Durable
Long flying time
Nice paint

Cons
Needs higher KV motor for more speed
Needs additional aileron for the main wing to do fast rolls

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Hey Chellie!

Great to hear from you. We sure do miss you here.

Hope all is going well and you're having fun !

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Yep - thought we'd lost our Baby Doll !

Great to see you back lass....

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Chellie, great to see you're still out there!
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Nigel,

Got her dialed in now. Added about 9g of weight toward nose. Used a 7g weight glued to nickel(5cent piece). 2200 Zippy as far forward as possible. Fly's great. Probably increase the high rates for better close-in combat. Worth the price.

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Old 12-27-2016, 03:22 AM
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Can you give me mm distance measurement CoG from wing root leading edge back or from nose of model ?

I have a 2.5kg box of car wheel self-adhesive weights ... 10gr each. Pal of mine has a tyre service and he drops me a box when I need them.

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Old 12-27-2016, 06:10 AM
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I'll take a pic and show you where I have batt, the add on weight etc. I can put her up on the cg machine and capture a dimension
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Tks .... much appreciated.

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Old 12-28-2016, 03:28 PM
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Nigel,

The first pic is where I glued the 7g weight with 5 cent piece to the base of the incline (flat spot). So maybe 9-10g.



The next pic is the Zippy 3S 2000mah 25c lipo I'm using:



The last pic is the lipo placement inside the hatch ( hatch cover not used) It's place as far forward as possible :



Not sure what the actual dimension is but can measure it later.

I can say that the first flight before adding the weight, she was wonky. Almost uncontrollably tail heavy. With the newly added forward weight and lipo all the way forward she flies straight and level.

With the 2200, I'm getting about 5 minutes of flight time mixed throttle but mainly to the high side.

One thing I need to do is to increase my high rates. At my current 100% high rate setting, she does not perform rolls very well. Just okay. On the F-22's I've built, they spin like a top.

Have fun. I wonder if there's more of these to come. Can't beat the price for what you get.

With all the spare motors , servos and esc's I have laying around, I could slam one of these together in less than an hour.

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Might order the Prime jet in the series and try a 50mm edf
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Old 12-28-2016, 10:38 PM
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Hi Hawk .... photos are bit too close for me to reference overall. Can you step back a bit to get more model in ?

Any chance to balance on the finger tips for measurement ?

Total weight ?

Might be worth upping the C rate of battery's to use up that needed weight or use two 1300 packs ? Maybe even a 4S ?

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Might order the Prime jet in the series and try a 50mm edf
Reminds me of the Radjet .....

Must admit now you mention edf - wonder what the Mig29 would be like with edf ?

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