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Clik XL 52" wingspan

Old 06-22-2007, 10:41 PM
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Default Clik XL 52" wingspan

Made a Clik F3P foamie into a 52" wingspan testbed for a larger 80-100" version to test materials and construction. This design translates well from an indoor feather to heavier outdoor 3D/pattern flyer. Between my friend and myself, we've gotten about 8 flights in 2 days and the smile factor is huge. Harriers upright and inverted have no wing rock. Elevators go straight down with no wing rock. Did I mention no wing rock? This plane is really smooth thru the transitions and there's no white knuckle's when flying this one. Going to make some turbulators for the wings to slow the downlines instead of the piece of swiss cheese in the breeze plate a lot of F3P planes use. KE's without rudder. Rolling manuevers are sick, very axial. Transitions into a wall are pivotal not arcing. This plane is too cool! Will try to get some video this weekend.
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Clik XL video

Here's some vid of the Clik taking on some 20mph gusts by the end of the flight. Did pretty well thanks to a higher wing loading and my friend Blakes capable thumbs. Tested out the turbulators=need more of them, larger fins, and more toe-in. 13 x 4 prop seemed to pull well and keep speed more constant. Also moved motor and pack forward about 1-1/4" to help with tracking. Sorry for the lack of 3D but the wind sort of took the fun out of it. Will retest plane in better conditions and shoot more video. Enjoy!
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Old 06-27-2007, 06:24 PM
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Default New VG's on the Clik

Testing some larger vortex generators on the Clik XL. If these work then I'll install 6mm ones permantly. Will try and shoot some video soon too...
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Old 06-27-2007, 06:29 PM
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Looks preaty neat do you use blue foam for all your modles? Im geting into modle airplain building and am using blue foam.
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Old 07-01-2007, 03:45 AM
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This is my first blue foam model. Just using this model as a testbed for the larger one to check out material and construction methods. I prefer balsa/glass/carbon but this was fun anyway. I'm starting a friend off on a blucor trainer so he can make his own replacement(s) and parts when he wears his currenct foamie out.
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:38 AM
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Tested out larger VG's and had to remove the 4 additional sets. Too much drag. The 13 x 4 prop sounded like it had some strain on it from trying to pull too much. Reflew Clik and it seemed just about right. So now I'll add the permanent 6mm ones and the 12 x 6 and retest. Will shoot some vid after that. Have a great,safe 4th everybody!
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:56 PM
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Nicely done. It looks like it fly's well to boot! Hmmm..with a pile of blucore, I might have to tackle this one
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Old 07-07-2007, 06:44 AM
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Thanks Mike! It is a hoot to fly. Where was this plane 2 years ago when I started out?! Would have loved to have this one for a first 3D/pattern plane. It's a good size too, not too small. Just big enough to fit in my truck in one piece. The 100" version will have to be a 2 piece wing, no doubt.
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Nicely done. It looks like it fly's well to boot! Hmmm..with a pile of blucore, I might have to tackle this one
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Old 07-07-2007, 04:21 PM
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Looking forward to the big brother
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Old 07-07-2007, 04:52 PM
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Have to clear my workspace of 1 project and start the big one. This one's going to take some space! The fuse is going to be about 115" long! Think I'm going to have to expand the work table....
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:34 PM
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Default New Clik XL video

Here's some more vid of the Clik XL testing various props and Vortex Generators. ESC was having problems, traced to a prop with hairline fracture. 13 x 4 seems to the one, so I'll have to pick up some more and maybe a Xoar to test too.
http://www.rcuvideos.com/item/DPK4YGFXMSKHC8FY
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Old 07-09-2007, 02:57 PM
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:34 PM
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Any chance of getting a list of the power system you used, lipos, lipos, etc? A very interesting project and I love how you guys fly it. Almost looks too easy.

Any physical numbers like weights, dimensions?

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Old 07-19-2007, 08:14 PM
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Just threw in what I had laying around. Torque 2814/820, Airboss 45, TP 4s 2070(6 min flights, not worried about duration) 13 x 4 prop. 500watts @ 38 amps. 42oz. AUW. Probably could have made firewall/ply reinforcements lighter but never hung 500 watts on foam before, so I probably overdid it a little. Beats watching a motor and prop go sailing(seen that before). Needs a good bit of power, it's draggy but flies well. HS-85MGs rudder/elev. HS-65MGs on ailerons. Had those too, so in they went. Needs the new Futaba 3115's all around . Just a testbed for the 100" version so didn't make any attempt to lighten or make it look good. I'm sure some LG would be nice, but it hand launches just fine.PM me your e-mail address and I can give you some more info if you're interested in tackling this one.

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Any chance of getting a list of the power system you used, lipos, lipos, etc? A very interesting project and I love how you guys fly it. Almost looks too easy.

Any physical numbers like weights, dimensions?

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Old 07-19-2007, 10:00 PM
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Thanks but my gear is based around 175/200watts, 10 and 11" props, 3S 1500 to 2200mah lipos. All pretty basic stuff.

However, with the need to replace the fuse on the Chargamosa (too heavy and getting soft), I am going to get some sheet foam and build a profile fuse. The wings, stab, and fin are all 100% so will just splice on.

I can't get any 1/2" blue stuff where I live but they have 3/4" plastispan. About 1/2 the density and quite soft. Common white insulation that many cut wing cores out of.

I will cut a wide profile fuse for better KE and tracking. The thicker sheet will still be lighter then the 1/2"BC. Will put in some stiffening here and there. A few round edges, workable and dirt cheap (4X8 sheet is $8).

For me, fuses are what get all the damage. Building a nice collection of wings and tail feathers.

Your build up may have just solved a big problem for me - readily accessible dirt cheap building sheet foam. Let's see how light it builds up.

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Old 08-05-2007, 06:38 PM
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Looks like some guys have been busy! Looks great guys. Nice to see some more "outdoor" Cliks hitting the air. Let's see some more build pics and some video!
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Old 08-06-2007, 08:34 AM
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Here's another video of my friend Blake playing around with the Clik XL at Wallaby Ranch. Enjoy!

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Old 08-17-2007, 04:20 AM
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Another vid of the Clik XL being hucked thru the backyard. Enjoy!
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Old 09-19-2007, 03:19 AM
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Now it's time for the Mini-Clik. My friend needs to test out the MicroDan F3P setup on something, why not the Clik planform? Shooting for Sub 4oz. AUW. Wingspan 28". Should make a fun indoor/calm weather outdoor flier.
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Old 09-21-2007, 01:54 PM
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This is my quick attempt at a larger clik. I didnt use the plans just built it from looking at the plane. Its 50 inch w/s and weighs 800grams. I have an eflite power 25 on it with a 3s 2200mah lipo.



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Old 09-24-2007, 01:59 PM
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Got the Mini-Clik done. Aww ain't it cute? Came in @ 4.2oz. Can reduce some wiring and plugs too. Battery is a 2s 480mah TP. Could drop down to the 330 sized or so and save enough to drop it below 4oz. Still flies well even in light breezes, as well as a 4ozer will tolerate the breeze. I must say stringing one of these for bracing is a great light way to do it, but it's an excercise in insanity! 3mm foam is not the most forgiving material under torsional stress, just doesn't want to go straight. But it's done and after the weight savings will add some LG. The MicroDan F3P motor puts out enough thrust to hover about 5/8th's throttle and WOT gives an nice vertical climb. Will be able to test it out in a gym this week so I'll try and shoot some video then. Otherwise it flies pretty much like it's big brother. Sweet!!
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:08 PM
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Default Clik 3D full fuse project

OK, got the baby Clik done on to the next phase. Wanted to make an airframe geared towards the MicroDan 2510-3D motor/TP1320 packs to keep it light. There's very few decent 3D planes in the 16-18oz range so here's the next incarnation of the Clik. How 'bout a full fuse with airfoiled wings? Need to change a few things to improve the overall 3D performance and still keep the precision flight characteristics of the original Clik. You'll begin to see more of the changes as the build progresses. I think I've learned a few lessons from my last projects and they should work even better on this version. If the airfoil and wing planform need changing I'm still open to a removable wing. The tail surfaces will get some balsa trailing edge stock/CA hinges to help with flex and precision. No more taped on surfaces! The nose will obviously get some laminated foam plates sanded to a more rounded finish. I think it just might work....
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:11 PM
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Here's some pics...
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Old 09-29-2007, 12:42 AM
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Made some progress on the wing. Some ribs and spar are in. 6mm spar/carbon flat stock and some 1/32" balsa. Pretty stiff so far without other half glued on. I think my dog Max is trying to point out my irregularities. He's so critical...if I could only train him to cover Oh yeah, threw a T-wing on the Clik XL. Seems to make it even more stable in all axis'.
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:50 PM
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Basically complete wing half waiting for top sheet.
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