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Old 11-26-2008, 04:53 PM
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Hey Cory, I'm gonna pick up at least two more F-16 kits. I'm gonna order two of the Don's Wicked 5400Kv motors and 60A ESCs. Gotta start building my 4s collection too. Of course I won't be building them until i return from deployment. I wanna have a little fleet of these things, lol.

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Old 11-26-2008, 05:25 PM
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Deployment?
Better you than me brother!
I did my share of Med cruises, Okinawa and Iwakuni tours
Now I stay my happy @ss right here!
Have fun man...when you leave and where ya going?
You should make at least one of these planes in your collection a 70MM fan set-up
They are just too much fun
Esp when you break it out and everybody thinks "ahh another PH3 F-16" Then they here it and see it launch and pull out at 70 Degree angle from the handtoss!
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Old 11-26-2008, 06:03 PM
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I leave on the 17th of next month. I'm on leave right now until the 7th. We're supposed to be going to Mosul. It shouldn't be too bad though. I can't wait to start making all that extra money either. $250.00 a month for separation pay, $275.00 a month for Hostile Fire pay, $250.00 for hardship Duty pay and all tax free!!

Of course I hate being away from my wife and children for a year. But the place we're going has internet and phones for daily use.

I want to sup up one of these F-16s so bad. Will the fuse allow a 70mm fan unit? Would i have to make any mods to get her to fit? Thanks friend.

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Old 11-26-2008, 07:12 PM
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Very little mods to get 70MM to fit
Measure the outside intake lip of the stock fan....it's very close to 70MM
You just have to sink the servos in a little deeper to make room for the thrust tube, I made a mounting rail that the fan is bolted to...easy to do ...popsicle sticks are perfect for this.....Minimal sanding on the lower intake to get a flush fit
I can take a pic of the guts installed on mine tonite if you would like to see in detail
Let me know
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Old 11-26-2008, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by USMC_VTOL_Mech View Post
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Very little mods to get 70MM to fit
Measure the outside intake lip of the stock fan....it's very close to 70MM
You just have to sink the servos in a little deeper to make room for the thrust tube, I made a mounting rail that the fan is bolted to...easy to do ...popsicle sticks are perfect for this.....Minimal sanding on the lower intake to get a flush fit
I can take a pic of the guts installed on mine tonite if you would like to see in detail
Let me know
That would be great!! I really appreciate it friend. I have plenty of popsicle sticks. Sounds like easy mods too. BTW, thanks for your service friend.
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Old 11-26-2008, 07:53 PM
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I was going to maiden her this morning after I got back from the lake (fishing with a buddy). By the time I got home the wind had picked up quite a bit...probably because of the sun warming things up. I'll try and get her maidened tomorrow.
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Old 11-26-2008, 10:44 PM
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U.S.M.C. what makes you think that i haven't thrown myself on the floor, kicked and screamed and held my breath until i turned blue to get what i wanted?? that's how we got married!!! (and had sex the first time too. now that i think about it) 6 foot 240lbs of spoiled, unreasonable,45 year old baby boy. THATS ME!!
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Old 11-26-2008, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by iflyrc1012 View Post
U.S.M.C. what makes you think that i haven't thrown myself on the floor, kicked and screamed and held my breath until i turned blue to get what i wanted?? that's how we got married!!! (and had sex the first time too. now that i think about it) 6 foot 240lbs of spoiled, unreasonable,45 year old baby boy. THATS ME!!
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:04 AM
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Is there a difference in using 5minute Epoxy vs 30minute other than time to set up?
ALso, any recommendations on how to fill in some imperfections in the foam to make it more smooth?
Lastly, what kind of foam is the P3 F-16 made from?
Thanks guys
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:22 AM
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to raise the dents out of foam i wet it very slightly then run a hairdryer on low heat over the low spots. that works pretty well but be careful not to melt anything. and the difference between 5-30 min epoxy is just the curing time, sometimes you need a while to adjust the item before it sets rock hard, but once cured its all the same.
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
Is there a difference in using 5minute Epoxy vs 30minute other than time to set up?
ALso, any recommendations on how to fill in some imperfections in the foam to make it more smooth?
Lastly, what kind of foam is the P3 F-16 made from?
Thanks guys
I wanna say it's Elapor foam. The best way to get rid of dents without damaging the surrounding area is to use light weight spackle to fill it in, let it dry and sand smooth with a fine grit sanding block or sandpaper. Small imperfections are one of the reasons I silk my foam birds. It gives the plane one solid texture as compared to foam to spackle. I like to fill in any imperfections with spackle, sand smooth then cover her in silk. It especially helps when painting too. When a plane is silked you get a consistant color when painting. If you tried to paint over foam and spackle, you will be able to see the difference because of the different textures. I hope this helps friend.
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:34 AM
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Hey Mike,
Where do you get the silk? I might want to give that method a try after my next mishap. Its just a matter of time.
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Hey Mike,
Where do you get the silk? I might want to give that method a try after my next mishap. Its just a matter of time.
No problem friend. I get it from Thai Silks:
http://www.thaisilks.com/product_inf...products_id=11

I pasted the page of the silk I use. It's Habotai 5mm 36". It's about $3.00 per yard. For $16.00 (which includes shipping) you can get 3 1/2 yards...that's enough for about 3-4 planes.
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Old 11-27-2008, 01:22 AM
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Actually the longer the set time on epoxy the stronger the bond is
I am pretty sure the foam is EPS Foam. I think Elapor foam is that stuff Multiplex makes their planes out of
Mike I am gonna take a pic of mine with the belly off tonight and I will E-mail it to you
Feel free to post it here
I am getting a new laptop next week so I should be able to post pics myself then =)
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Old 11-27-2008, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by USMC_VTOL_Mech View Post
Actually the longer the set time on epoxy the stronger the bond is
I am pretty sure the foam is EPS Foam. I think Elapor foam is that stuff Multiplex makes their planes out of
Mike I am gonna take a pic of mine with the belly off tonight and I will E-mail it to you
Feel free to post it here
I am getting a new laptop next week so I should be able to post pics myself then =)
Thanks friend. When it comes to foam, I always get them confused
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Old 11-27-2008, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Angler-Hi View Post
No problem friend. I get it from Thai Silks:
http://www.thaisilks.com/product_inf...products_id=11

I pasted the page of the silk I use. It's Habotai 5mm 36". It's about $3.00 per yard. For $16.00 (which includes shipping) you can get 3 1/2 yards...that's enough for about 3-4 planes.
Thanks for that info.
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Old 11-27-2008, 01:57 AM
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Sure thing newjak.
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Old 11-27-2008, 02:07 AM
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U.S.M.C.. . . are you saying that 30 min epoxy has a higher tensile strength than 5 min?? i learn something new from you guys everyday. i never knew that.
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Old 11-27-2008, 03:36 AM
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The only thing I know about tensile strength has to do with steel and Aluminum and titanuim alloys
As for epoxy I do know that the longer the cure time the stronger the bond
Although.....I have used all kinds of epoxy on all kinds of structural parts and can say I have never had one epoxy fail over another due to it being 5 min vs 30 min.
I usually like using something in the middle like great planes 12 minute
I did use foam safe Ca to field repair a wing on a 100 Mph foam
reno racer corsair.....the next flight was that corsairs last!
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Old 11-27-2008, 04:17 AM
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I don't use CA for builds unless it's something small and on a balsa kit. I only use epoxy for my foamies.
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Old 11-27-2008, 04:23 AM
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E-mail sent!
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Old 11-27-2008, 04:40 AM
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Here's a few pics USMC sent me of his powerplant:
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Old 11-27-2008, 04:58 AM
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yikes!!!! make sure you turn alot. . going straight for too long would make that banshee real small real fast...(feeling sheepish cause i was thinking the stock 1 was gonna be a handful on 3 cells) geeze. . . and i agree on the foam safe c/a. . at the field, just use 5min epoxy if it has to be done NOW!!
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Old 11-27-2008, 05:02 AM
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Well I'm heading out tomorrow morning to maiden mine. I'll post pics and a video if the wind doesn't interfere.
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Old 11-27-2008, 05:08 AM
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godspeed and light winds on your maiden flight. i can't wait to see the video. . .
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