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Old 05-04-2011, 06:07 PM
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I'd love to buy an 8 or 9 channel radio, but those pesky wife and kids, dogs, mortgage, etc are putting a serious damper on my new hobby. Am I throwing away $60.00 if I buy a Spektrum DX5E (or $100 for same with receiver)? Am I better off to rack up the brownie points and hold out for 6 or 7 channel? This will be my first "good" transmitter and I'd like it to be useful for a while. With a 5 channel I can have 3 control surfaces and flaps or retracts. Do the additional 1 or two channels add that much more to the experience? Thoughts and opinions on my dilemma will be greatly appreciated. Ideas for brownie points are most welcome, too!
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I would wait and get at least a DX6I
The TX and your charger are your most important purchases imho
So try and get the best you can afford
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Old 05-04-2011, 06:33 PM
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Don't bother with the DX5e. Nothing wrong with it. It does what it's supposed to, but you'll want things like model memory, expo and mixes in a month or so, so you'll be better off getting a DX6i or better right away.

Or you can do what I did: Use the DX5e as buddy box and flight simulator controller once you've outgrown it. But outgrow it you will!
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Old 05-04-2011, 06:44 PM
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Thanks, guys. Anybody know where I can buy an inexpensive DX6i? :-p
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Old 05-04-2011, 06:57 PM
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just seen one ...give me a min.
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http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=743683 not full range though

make sure to ask about if rx is included or not...kinda sketchy on a couple of them....

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Old 05-04-2011, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchiroalpha View Post
Hi
I would wait and get at least a DX6I
The TX and your charger are your most important purchases imho
So try and get the best you can afford
Take care dear friend
Yours Hank

What Hank said, DX6i!

When I got back into the hobby I was living in a "years gone by" mind set and started by purchasing a 4 channel FM radio to use on a Multiplex Acromaster (never needed anything more 17 years ago, why would I need it now?).

Now I know why. The 4 channel FM radio didn't work out so well so the FM radio is now collecting dust and I purchased a DX6i.

I know some will say you need more radio than a DX6i but for my use it is just what the doctor needed. I now have 3 planes, I have the adjustments I need for everything from my simple foamie, to my Acromaster, and even when I purchased my 3DHS 57" Extra 330 the DX6i supports everything I need and a bit more.

Long story made short I beleive in my DX6i purchase but total cost for mine included the cost of an FM dust collector. Don't make the same mistake. Ya don't need a Lamborgini but done buy the VW.

I purchased my DX6i through my local hobby shop. No it isn't one of the big fancy hobby shops. Just a small shop that typically deals in RC cars. But he matched or beat by a few dollar any internet price I could find and he doesn't charge freight. So considering the lack of freight purchasing through him saved me $ and I still had it in 3 days.
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Old 05-04-2011, 08:01 PM
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Well, depending on what sort of planes you'd like to fly (i.e are they BNFs that have DSM/DSM2/DSMX recievers in them, or not) you may do far more harmful things than consider a Turnigy 9X (v2) - they are in fact less than $60 and are programmable, have a 9 model memory, and 8 channels (you have to put a different module in I think, if you want to get the 9th channel.) It comes with an 8 channel 'full-range' receiver, and if you want it for park-fliers or foamies then you can grab a 3, 4 or 6 channel HobbyKing rx to go with it for between $5 and $9, or for more serious work you can get a another one of the receivers it comes with for about $8 or $9, (the same factory makes the lot - it's just branded differently. That's why you can use a 3 channel car rx from HobbyKing) Of course, being a JR-compatible module base system, you can slap all sorts of stuff into it. You can get some rx/tx combos with 2km range for about 40 or 50 bucks.

Some hate it, some love it. But it's amongst the most spectacularly awe-inspiring value-for-money purchases I've ever made and will buy another one in a 1/10 of a blink of an eye should it become broken from mistreatment.
You can also get a Spektrum module and receiver for it for about $180, but it hardly seemed worth the bother. For the money, I'd be better off buying another one and a spektrum transmitter from ebay and seeing if I can't do a little electronics surgery to create my very own seemingly DX7 equivalent with 8 channels.

I'd considered a DX6i for around Aus $230, though having taken the plunge in this direction felt rather smug as I checked out a friend's DX6i in the flesh for the first time. The only 2 things I preferred about the DX6i was the fact that (1) you don't have to get a different module before you have a functional fail-safe, and (2) it's got that mouse-wheel type thing rather than the sometimes cumbersome buttons on the 9X. But at 1/4 the price and what seemed to me at a quick glance to be 2x the features, my eyes aren't good enough to see any contest at all - seems like 8x better value for my purposes.

It also constantly hops between 16 different channels, rather than just finding 2 - a usual and a backup, as is the case with DSM2. I like the idea of that kind of interference rejection at that kind of money.

And no, I don't work for them - I wish! just think of the evil lure of staff-discount

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http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=744328
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Old 05-04-2011, 08:25 PM
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That is a DX6 and not what you want. It is very dated and only uses one RX type. And it is a bit expensive at that.

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Hi
Your best bet imho is ebay
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=Used+DX6I
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_kw=new&_kw=DX6I
Its quite hard to find a new one at any of the RC web commerce websites or dealers
Take care dear friend
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just looking on ebay too. I agree with hank, probably your best bet.

have a good one
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Old 05-04-2011, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by earthsciteach View Post
I'd love to buy an 8 or 9 channel radio, but those pesky wife and kids, dogs, mortgage, etc are putting a serious damper on my new hobby. Am I throwing away $60.00 if I buy a Spektrum DX5E (or $100 for same with receiver)? Am I better off to rack up the brownie points and hold out for 6 or 7 channel? This will be my first "good" transmitter and I'd like it to be useful for a while. With a 5 channel I can have 3 control surfaces and flaps or retracts. Do the additional 1 or two channels add that much more to the experience? Thoughts and opinions on my dilemma will be greatly appreciated. Ideas for brownie points are most welcome, too!

As others have indicated, buy a transmitter with multiple memories. The Spektrum also has "Model Match" where it is not possible to take off with the wrong model set in your transmitter. (Think different model, and reversed ailerons. Instant crash)

(FYI, every one in my local club that has gone to 2.4 ghz has either a Spektrum or JR system. All have had good luck with them.)
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Old 05-05-2011, 12:29 AM
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I must thank the people on this forum for being so helpful. I have seen no abusivness toward anyone. No one seems to derive their self-worth from having more knowledge than someone else. It is very nice to be able to post questions that have probably been answered before without ridicule. I can't even tell you how many ideas or how much new information I've gotten from this site. Thank you all!

Now, that being said, Simon makes a powerful argument for the Turnigy 8-9 channel, $53 radio. I am a subscriber to the "you get what you pay for" philosphy, but saving $100.00 is very tempting! I am apprehensive that something so inexpensive, compared to other systems, can be as reliable. If that was the case, I'd suspect the other companies would be out of business. What is the drawback, specifically, to that system?

As a fly-fisherman, I have seen fly rods that cost an exhorbanent amount of money. The performance of these (at least from my viewpoint) doesn't warrant the +$$$ compared to less costly rods. Can't help but wonder if radio prices are a similar situation.
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Old 05-05-2011, 12:32 AM
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Well, rather than a lot of people who go for the "get everything you can get your hands on" philosophy, I went the other way. I waited until I was sure where I was most likely headed in this hobby, then looked for the TX that would most practicaly handle it.

IOW, If I was never going to use more than 5 channels, why the frak should I waste my money getting 9? Or 12? Or God forbid 16+?

So, what part of this hobby piques your interest? What kind of planes do you see yourself flying in the next five years? In the next ten? Twenty?? Once you decided see what they need and get that.

Unless of course you like wasting money...

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Old 05-05-2011, 12:46 AM
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Here's what's in my near future, for sure. I am working on a scratch-build micro-flyer that will be 4 channel. I also have a U.S. AirCore Classic 40 kit, powered by a 0.40 Webra gas engine. VERY different ends of the spectrum (pardon the pun).

I find myself drawn to the electric ARF/RTF warbirds and EDF jets. I think I like foam. Its easy to work with, inexpensive and I feel I can be creative with it, if I decide to make my own creations. I think most of my focus will be in this realm. I think...
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Old 05-05-2011, 12:48 AM
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Oh, I despise wasting money. That's why I feel like a fish out of water when my wife manages to drag me to a casino!
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Old 05-05-2011, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWheel View Post
Well, rather than a lot of people who go for the "get everything you can get your hands on" philosophy, I went the other way. I waited until I was sure where I was most likely headed in this hobby, then looked for the TX that would most practicaly handle it.

IOW, If I was never going to use more than 5 channels, why the frak should I waste my money getting 9? Or 12? Or God forbid 16+?

So, what part of this hobby piques your interest? What kind of planes do you see yourself flying in the next five years? In the next ten? Twenty?? Once you decided see what they need and get that.

Unless of course you like wasting money...

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Hi Chris
Thats fine in theory but the reality can be quite different
Never in my wildest dreams at the time i started in this hobby did i think i would acquire such a a collection
http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/show...&postcount=127
I never even had any interest in helis or land based vehicles until i tried 7 or 8 years ago them and now im hooked on them and have many
Just recently in fact i tried a glider which never quite interested me and once i finally did operate one ,now they are something i wish to add as well to my hanger
My point being is that you may want more and more and even more aircraft or vehicles in the future so why not get a TX that would allow that from the get go
I only just got a high ened TX and that was because i had so many vehicles that i needed the memory and features that one could do instead of having even more less capable TXs hanging around
Take care dear friend'
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Old 05-05-2011, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by earthsciteach View Post
Now, that being said, Simon makes a powerful argument for the Turnigy 8-9 channel, $53 radio. I am a subscriber to the "you get what you pay for" philosphy, but saving $100.00 is very tempting! I am apprehensive that something so inexpensive, compared to other systems, can be as reliable. If that was the case, I'd suspect the other companies would be out of business. What is the drawback, specifically, to that system?
Guess it pretty much depends on your needs. If you're flying little $50 "park flyers", it doesn't make sense to control it with a $500 radio. Or, on the opposite end, controlling a $500 model airplane with a $50 radio.

But if you have any plans on going to those $500 models or anything close, IMHO it's a good idea to pick up a quality radio system, something that will be useable later on.

As for me, I've got the Spektrum system and Spektrum receivers. And all my club members that have gone to 2.4 Ghz radios went to either Spektrum or JR 2.4 Ghz radio systems.
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Old 05-05-2011, 03:40 AM
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Once you get the Dx6 or larger , trust me , try the orange 2.4 receivers from Hobby King , they ...yes (pay attention now ) they will bind and work better then the real Spectrum receivers .Take this from a guy who thought he had to buy brands !!!! .I now have three of the cheapo no name 2.4 orange receivers and they all bind better then my original Spectrum receivers and Horsion simply gives me jibberish when I ask respectful binding questions on there system .
This is why I made the jump , I received a cheapo 2.4 system with my FMS 55" ready to fly P40 . So like many , i removed the cheapp receiver from the planen and added my real spectrum receiver and real spectrum transmitter . I always have to try to bind two to three times to get this to work .
So , in the mean time I install my cheapo 2.4 freebe receiver in my Hobby King A-10 and use the cheapo toy like transmitter in the A-10 .
Let me tell you , flawless binding , flawless glitch free flying , going in season two now !!!!
This has really open my eyes up !!!
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Old 05-05-2011, 03:48 AM
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Radio system and the receivers are the most important tools in the game. I am very much of the opinion it is an area where it is worth some investment.

Been at the game for 33+ years and have never had the urge to go cheap on my TX/RX. YMMV.

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Old 05-05-2011, 04:05 AM
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Mike I could not agree more , been a Futaba guy from my teens , left the hobby for schools , kids , left and came back in my 40 ties .
I have to tell you , I never thought I would use a cheapo receiver in the 2.4 systems , but I am and they work great .
I wont try the transmitters because the reviews are still bad , but the receivers are flawless
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Radio system and the receivers are the most important tools in the game. I am very much of the opinion it is an area where it is worth some investment.

Been at the game for 33+ years and have never had the urge to go cheap on my TX/RX. YMMV.

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I've been flying RC 47 years, and would never put an "Inexpensive" radio in my $1000 giant scale 3000 Watt Electric airplane. (It's using a Spektrum DX7 and AR7000 receiver) But, for an inexpensive model, those receivers might be OK.
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Old 05-05-2011, 05:28 AM
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yep , I use them in my Hobby King A-10 ect , branching out to see what I can do with them , I starting to think are they inexpensive or am I cutting out a distributor cost ?
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:10 AM
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Interesting that you should mention the OrangeRx's that HobbyKing has Lou, I too bought some of the HobbyKing DSM2 compatible receivers. These cost me about $9 each. The Spektrum model that they had the same features as was between $50 & $60 depending on vendor. After swapping out the original rx for the HK clone, I could see no difference in response. After each flight the number of times the led was blinking to indicate a break in radio link was no greater or fewer. The particular model I bought has since suffered a QC control, in which an entire batch were failing to write the GUID of the transmitter to the internal EEPROM, having the effect that they would bind, though would 'forget' when they were powered down and the bind plug removed.

Admittedly the QC at Horizon & Spektrum can be light-years in front some times, though after having success with these RXs and a $29 pc programmable 6 ch Tx from HK decided they may be worth a serious look. After many, many, many hours and megabytes of research, I came to the opinion that the hardware of the Turnigy 9X was superior to that offered in the DSM2 systems. 16 channel constantly channel hopping VS 1 channel + 1 backup. No comparison. After purchase I examined the internals of my $100 Blade SR transmitter and those of the 9X. No difference in build quality, and there's a whole lot more electronics for $53 than there is for $100. They're both made in China, and you can use xray microscopes to see inside the chips to copy them effectively.

Heck, a wireless keyboard and mouse from Microsoft cost me $120. I can assure you that the electronics in the 9X are worth considerably more than those in the keyboard + mouse.

At times you do indeed get what you pay for. At times you merely perceive that you get what you pay for. Some HK $1.33 batteries certainly outperform Eflites $15 batteries for the Blade MSR. Yet they come in no fancy packaging and you can't go and pick them up off the shelf. Nor have I ever seen any money spent on advertising them. The perception for me is that the 'cheap and nasty' cells would be just that. The actuality has been eye-opening.

People commonly get 2km with this radio and a $40 module. Though I'd love to learn that my impressions are incorrect and that the offerings of Spektrum or JR could be even more exciting and fairly priced than Turnigy's.
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Old 05-05-2011, 11:21 AM
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simon that is a great post .The reason why I am open minded to the idea is that I am in the edible consumable product , in particular candy novelities .
The trend the past 10 years was to import inovation because the product life cycle lasted two year at max because of the USA consumer losing attening after 24 months .
Well interesting enought the trend the last 5 years has been for the major retailers to bypass US companies that import and attempt to buy direct themselves.
The savings is substanial,when you bypass the USA import , you are saving at a minimum 25% , the rest over that amount depends on the company importing .Typical business model is 40% .
Just look at the lipo battery market , until I could buy from place like Hobby King , I was not going to shell out $200 for one battery , now the same batter cost me $65 .
I think like Mike said , you have to dip your foot in the water , slowly , test the temps and see how ot feels to go in .
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