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Old 09-15-2009, 07:01 AM
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I was just rooting around the web looking for some rigging schematics for the DH2, and ran across this: http://www.aeroscale.co.uk/modules.p...=145540&page=1

I am sure you have done your research on the DH2...thought you may find this interesting. WHAT A SPIDERWEB!

BTW thanks for the info on making the small metal parts. Tim
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Old 09-15-2009, 04:18 PM
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Amazing craftsmanship! What weight are you targeting?..

Are you really going to fly it or will it be for static display?.. If it were me I'd be frightened to fly it after putting in all that work. Flying or not it's a work of art.

Please keep the inspirational build photos coming.

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i'm shooting for between 6 1/2 lbs to 7 lbs. yes exacty what i think and how i feel about my work. it is art to me 3 dementional art especially after youve invested 1200 to 1300 hrs in a build. as far as flying , all my builds i tried to do something different like the 1/6 scale DR1 with a robotic pilot that actually mans and flys the plane with the controls, although it hasn't been test flown. did some taxinging and a few little bunny hops but thats it. my DH-2 is my most involved indeavor yet even though i put that level of detail in all my planes with every build i get better, more ideas etc. so fly it? i'd think i'd rather sell it to a collector or museum. i'm trying to get in touch with john travolta i know he has a place up here and is an avid flyer of full scale planes and loves areoplanes the way we do, now how i go about doing that is another question but i know he'd love to hang it in one of his many rooms and would appreciate it, now if there are no takers i will probably get around to flying it with the help of a knowledgeable person to help me trim and ready the plane and also pilot it then will do a maiden. thanks for asking.
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Old 09-15-2009, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by barmonkey View Post
I was just rooting around the web looking for some rigging schematics for the DH2, and ran across this: http://www.aeroscale.co.uk/modules.p...=145540&page=1

I am sure you have done your research on the DH2...thought you may find this interesting. WHAT A SPIDERWEB!

BTW thanks for the info on making the small metal parts. Tim
thanks tim i foud it very informative and the plans being a little vague on rigging, it let me know i'm going to have every thing in the right spot.
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Old 09-16-2009, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DCflyer View Post
here are some pics of a 1/5 scale proctor N-11, it's all repaired now.
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Post some pictures of the N-11 after the crash so we can see what you had to repair.
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Old 09-23-2009, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DCflyer View Post
i will probably get around to flying it with the help of a knowledgeable person to help me trim and ready the plane and also pilot it then will do a maiden.
rob
Not sure how I missed this build. It's stunning just like your others. Nice to see you back at it. We really apreciate your talent, and are glad you share it with us.

What I'd really like to see you do is learn to fly (and maiden) your planes yourself. Many hand their planes over to the local "expert" for maidens, (and at the field that I go to, this is a positive thing, because the "local expert" is just that - a very good pilot). While others like me, learned on simple cheap planes. I learned with a 3D Tiger Moth - completely self taught. I know you enjoy building more than flying, but flying something scale really brings a whole new level to this hobby. I'd love to see you learn, and crash, a couple cheap simple planes. Then move up to a balsa ARF like Great Planes SE5 or DVII. If you crash those, fix them, and fly again. Once those are mastered, move on to your masterpiece planes you've built.

Nothing would make me happier to hear that you've learned to fly, and have had this plane up and back down in one piece.
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:10 PM
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Hi DC flyer are you also SPIKKKKKKKK over at RCG, Some really nice builds there too, but they were never finished, like the DR1 and DV11 and the poor Proctor N-11 that a drunk flew and crashed it Oh well, thats RC, Take Care, Chellie
I was thinking the EXACT same thing! And now, after reading a few more posts forward, I see the whole story. I don't care WHERE you post, so long as you keep on doing so. Your astonishing patience and skill are a treat to behold. The fact that more than one of us recognized your work instantly is a very sincere compliment. You're raising the bar for us all ...well at least those who still have the guts to even attempt scratch building after seeing your work. (I know a few ex-writers who have been crippled by Cormac McCarthy.)

Question: Are you working from published plans on this one? I'm in the market for a set (AMA has some that I've inquired about, as does Arizona Modelers and Kit Cutters) and I'm trying to decide which to go with. Anyone else out there have an opinion?

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Old 09-24-2009, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DCflyer View Post
i'm shooting for between 6 1/2 lbs to 7 lbs. yes exacty what i think and how i feel about my work. it is art to me 3 dementional art especially after youve invested 1200 to 1300 hrs in a build. as far as flying , all my builds i tried to do something different like the 1/6 scale DR1 with a robotic pilot that actually mans and flys the plane with the controls, although it hasn't been test flown. did some taxinging and a few little bunny hops but thats it. my DH-2 is my most involved indeavor yet even though i put that level of detail in all my planes with every build i get better, more ideas etc. so fly it? i'd think i'd rather sell it to a collector or museum. i'm trying to get in touch with john travolta i know he has a place up here and is an avid flyer of full scale planes and loves areoplanes the way we do, now how i go about doing that is another question but i know he'd love to hang it in one of his many rooms and would appreciate it, now if there are no takers i will probably get around to flying it with the help of a knowledgeable person to help me trim and ready the plane and also pilot it then will do a maiden. thanks for asking.
rob

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This is a truly beautiful aeroplane, if you are serious about selling it to someone who will appreciate it I would try to get in contact with Peter Jackson (from lord of the rings).
He has a company here in Nz that manufactors WW1 aircraft.
http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/node
Thanks again for sharing this build, it is an amazing piece of craftmanship!
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:23 PM
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hi folks. got a bunch more pics for you and the build is almost done just putting it all together and rigging, 70 turnbuckles worth. right know i'm cutting and building my own four blade prop, first time for me doing a prop, but in any case if you have any questions on any of the pics and methods i used just ask, i will answer. just to add i think your a great bunch of people and you are all my inspireration.
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:44 PM
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Seeing that thing fly would be wonderful, but I really think it shouldn't.
It should be in one of the model magazines then in a museum.
I would be very nervous watching that fly knowing the care that went into it.

Beautiful job.

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Old 09-25-2009, 08:54 PM
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Seeing that thing fly would be wonderful, but I really think it shouldn't.
It should be in one of the model magazines then in a museum.
I would be very nervous watching that fly knowing the care that went into it.

Beautiful job.

Paul
Your work is jawdropping to say the least. Agree with Paul 100% should be in a museum, and mag. I don't think I would fly it either.
It is a pleasure to follow this artistic build.
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:56 PM
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Every time I check on the progress of this master piece, I realize I'm seeing a Master Piece in the making. Outstanding work DCflyer.. just outstanding workmanship..

WOW...........
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Old 09-25-2009, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DCflyer View Post
hi folks. got a bunch more pics for you and the build is almost done just putting it all together and rigging, 70 turnbuckles worth. right know i'm cutting and building my own four blade prop, first time for me doing a prop, but in any case if you have any questions on any of the pics and methods i used just ask, i will answer. just to add i think your a great bunch of people and you are all my inspireration.
I'm curious to know who's going to be behind the stick. Perhaps your beautiful little automaton? Or do you have something else up your sleeve?
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Old 09-25-2009, 11:31 PM
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Someone here know any people at the rc or history mags? Get DCflyer published !!!!
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Old 09-26-2009, 05:28 PM
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Very Nice Plane!! I bow in your presence!!! Truly an artist at work!! Steve
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Old 09-26-2009, 10:59 PM
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If I saw a photo of this plane sitting in an empty field, I would think it was the real deal. Absolutely astonishing amount of faithful attention to detail. Fantastic job!
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:18 PM
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Amazing build with fantastic scale.
Just a small point but the cam case on the Gnome Monosoupape looks to be too small.
Depending on the model of the engine it actually stuck out quite a bit with each push rod entering at a different position.
This first illustration shows an early Monosoupape that had 9 individual cams in quite a big cam case with each push rod entering at a different angle.
The second picture shows a later version that I think only had 3 cams (but geared to go round at 1/2 engine speed?) and thus a rather smaller cam case with the push rods at only 3 different positions.
But you did say "museum quality"!
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:36 AM
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Looks like each rod had its own lobe on the cam shaft.
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:38 AM
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Do you know if the firing order was in-line, alternating or simultaneous?
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The firing order was 1,3,5,7,9,2,4,6,8.
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:23 PM
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That order looks like it had four two lobed cams. The rods would have been in a pattern of four pairs each pair having its own position on the cam shaft/cylinder.

edit: make that three on three lobes.

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Old 10-02-2009, 03:12 PM
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DCFlyer
Amazing build with fantastic scale.
Just a small point but the cam case on the Gnome Monosoupape looks to be too small.
Depending on the model of the engine it actually stuck out quite a bit with each push rod entering at a different position.
This first illustration shows an early Monosoupape that had 9 individual cams in quite a big cam case with each push rod entering at a different angle.
The second picture shows a later version that I think only had 3 cams (but geared to go round at 1/2 engine speed?) and thus a rather smaller cam case with the push rods at only 3 different positions.
But you did say "museum quality"!
Simon
yes i did say museum quality, you got me there. what happened is i needed to compress the depth of the engine because i only had so much room even with the shaft ext. so i had to cheat a little bit. i found so many different versions of this plane and it seemed to change considerbly from the early 1916 to the latter 1917. don't beat me up to bad Simon i'm fairly new to rc modeling and sometimes you just have to make things work, thanks for your input.
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Old 10-02-2009, 08:57 PM
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I guessed that was probably the reason.

Just as an aside I am looking at the possibility of burying an out runner completely inside the crankcase/cam case of a scale rotary.
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Old 10-02-2009, 09:39 PM
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iv'e finally finished my bird with the exception of the airco logo's that go on all the struts. i made the four bladed prop out of cherry and i have to say it was a bear, but its done and didn't come out half bad for someone who has never made a prop before. i also had to make brass clevises, there all hand cut and silver soldered. with a plane like this every thing has to be tensioned. the rondels and #'s are super thin decals i made, there a pain in the butt to apply but when all is said and done they almost look like paint. everything works in the cockpit and the gnome spins with the prop etc., i'll be posting a video of all the functions very soon until then here are a bunch of pics of the DH-2 in all it's glory. i'd like to thank everyone for your compliments and support.
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Old 10-02-2009, 10:01 PM
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DC this plane of yours is a true work of art. The detail that you have done is beyond words. Hope you find a place to share this plane so others can admire it, not in a private collection.
Stunning job DC that's all I can say.
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Old 10-02-2009, 10:15 PM
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That is such a thing of beauty.
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