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Old 10-09-2005, 06:11 PM
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Anybody built one? About to start in on mine. Takes the 480 fan. Will go brushless/lipoly. Thinking of adding landing gear, I don't like to bungee...
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Old 10-12-2005, 05:49 PM
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Started in on it last night. Three hours later, most of the fuselage is done.
I have to say, I have built a lot of balsa kits, this may be the BEST one I have ever done. Parts fit, instructions, plans, engineering, all dynamite.
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Old 10-12-2005, 05:54 PM
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I have more pics, but they are too large to post here.
What's the most powerful lipoly-480fan setup? I have a wattage fan already, waste of time to use that?
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Old 10-13-2005, 02:50 AM
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Hey tiger,
Try the Mega EDF 16 or for a little more the 16/20/2
Go 4s with either in the minifan and ya won't be dissapointed!!!

Light set up use the 16/15/2 on 3s

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Old 10-13-2005, 02:55 AM
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What kind of thrust, what kind of weight?
Not sure which way I want to go, depends on landing gear. I may go light and hand-launch...
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Old 10-13-2005, 04:40 AM
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Thrust, not sure.
Weight, That's up to you!!!!!!

16/15/2 = 450 watts

EDF 16 = 500 to 600 watts

16/20/2 = 600 to around 700

I've got the 16/20/2 Kyosho T-33 Stock fan on 4s - 40oz with PolyQuest
4400N 4s and it allmost flies out of your hand - 735 watts

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Old 10-14-2005, 01:42 AM
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Not sure which way I want to go...super light and hand launch, or maximum power and retracts...or build two of them...
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Old 10-15-2005, 05:58 PM
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All framed up, just needs a final sanding.
I played around with retract installations for a while yesterday. Mechanical is no good, no way to make the linkages work. I don't have air retracts small enough. I settled on OK mechanicals actuated by Clippard air cylinders. Overall weight gain would be on the order of 7 ounces, by the time all was said and done, and the mains would have to be flat wheels such as Williams Brothers to fit in the very thin wing...
In the end, I decided it was not worth it.
I do think I will put in maple blocks for fixed gear, so at least I have the option.
Anyway...everything fit together PERFECTLY, engineering was SUPERB, and I have about eight hours in it to get to this point...
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Old 10-15-2005, 07:21 PM
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Easytiger,

Your model is looking good!
I am at the covering stage with my Hunter using Poly-C and tissue to keep the weight down.

Power for mine is Mega 16/15/3 and 4s Lipo.
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Old 10-15-2005, 09:45 PM
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Looks just like mine! I am going to do the same thing, covering-wise. Sort of wish they had just sheeted the entire wings, I may do that, to do the whole thing in tissue.
How much power from that setup?
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Old 10-15-2005, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by easytiger View Post
I have more pics, but they are too large to post here.
What's the most powerful lipoly-480fan setup? I have a wattage fan already, waste of time to use that?
the wattage fan will be fine.

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Old 10-15-2005, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by termite View Post
Thrust, not sure.
Weight, That's up to you!!!!!!

16/15/2 = 450 watts

EDF 16 = 500 to 600 watts

16/20/2 = 600 to around 700

I've got the 16/20/2 Kyosho T-33 Stock fan on 4s - 40oz with PolyQuest
4400N 4s and it allmost flies out of your hand - 735 watts

Randy
We added thrust to Luc Dietvorst's FanCalc version 2.0. Not sure if its out yet, but it'll have it when released.

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Old 10-16-2005, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by watt_the?! View Post
the wattage fan will be fine.

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The Wattage fan is equivalent to the Wemotec 480? I can put 700 watts into it?
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Old 10-16-2005, 12:31 AM
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well, itll do the same up to the point where it fails...

dunno if it can absorb 700W, but it is on a par with the minifan at least up to 500W.

Data is available up to 500W that ive found so far.

might have to ask around about what others have put into it. On the efficiency side, its good.

Most of the RBC kits do well on 400W- im sure you know.

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Old 10-16-2005, 12:36 AM
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Judging by the much more sophisticated design of the Wemotec over the Wattage, I suspect the software is not really giving a real-world figure, the Wattage fan seems awfully primitive. But who knows?

I have built some RBC kits, I like them very much.
This thing is much more sophistacated, though, in plans, instructions, packaging, decals, and, above all, the plastic parts are MUCH better.
I'd build another RBC kit, though, those guys are supercreative and keep cranking them out. That F100 is tempting.
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ET, i know our past revolves around this, but im trying to help, not mislead. the data to 500W are test, not software.

from that data it can be extrapolated to 700W and beyond, but i wouldnt post that as i dont know of anyone who has run them that hard.

What would be great is if you put 700W into it, held it over a digi scale, and measured V, I, thrust, and rpm. Then we'll know. my bet is that itll do it well, but as i qualified it, i only know of someone doing 500W and getting great results.

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Old 10-16-2005, 03:41 AM
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I think for this project, I will stick with the Wemotec, which LOOKS to be more efficient, and the plane is designed around it, and I know it will take the power and not put out anybody's eye...
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Old 10-29-2005, 02:09 AM
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Well...I put in fixed removeable gear, and fully sheeting the wing.
The LG blocks only added an ounce and a half, and the sheeting lets me cover the whole bird with just tissue and dope. Tissue on open areas is not great for a jet, too many holes.
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Any progress Tiger?

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Old 12-25-2005, 12:48 PM
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Absolutely. Ready to paint. I did silkspan and eight coats of clear nitrate dope. Pics later this week.

Did I mention how nice this kit was? Really love it...
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:56 AM
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All ready for paint...
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Old 12-28-2005, 01:07 AM
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Lookin' good my friend.

Let me know if I can help with the power system:p

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Old 12-28-2005, 01:08 AM
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I actually got it painted already, but did not photograph it yet...

I WILL need help with the power system, I have bought none of that stuff for this plane yet, but I will hold out for a few weeks, been spending too much, I want to buy another turbine first....
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Old 01-13-2006, 05:03 AM
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Coming along, panel lines are next...
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Old 01-13-2006, 10:44 AM
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Easytiger,

Looking really good with that paint job............................I must get mine finished! :o
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