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How would this Fly-Q compare to my EGE?

Old 10-28-2007, 03:10 AM
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Default How would this Fly-Q compare to my EGE?

Of course I would put more motor in the Q than the brushed 400 geared that's in my EGE.

Would this be a significat upgrade from my first plane, the EGE? It seems like a good deal and a pretty plane too. I am looking for more speed and penetration than the EGE but still want it to be lofty.

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Old 10-28-2007, 03:23 AM
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Hey! I just ordered one.
Im hoping for a auw of 17oz maybe a bit more.
Planning on using a eflight 400 outrunner and a 10x6.
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Old 10-28-2007, 04:04 AM
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Keep me posted! I can't find anything about this plane anywhere.
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Old 10-28-2007, 04:51 AM
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Ive been searching forums.
I havent been able to find much. But here's what I have found.
This sailplane has many names it seems.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=402722
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=497370
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Maiden soon

I've got my Fly Q together now.
Pretty easy build with only a couple of hick-ups along the way.
While not a fully molded plane it is very slippery looking. I'm extremely pleased with the over all finish, and quailty of the parts.

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Fly Q
AUW = 628g <-- pretty much blew my orginal estimate away
eflite 400 outrunner
eflite 20amp esc
1250-1320 lipos
HS 5S micro rx
4 x HS55's
11 x 6 folder (altitude adjustment)
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:41 PM
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Wow, it really is a beautiful plane regardless of the good price! I've actually decided to try a scale glider this time, so I will be working on the ASW-28 2.5M over the winter. It will also be electrified. I will use a Scorpion 3008-32 motor. 400watt. Your setup should really pull nicely.

Your plane makes me want to order the Fly-Q also....oh man my wife would have my head on a platter for Thanksgiving.

Please post more photos a video and a report of the flying. Awesome!

-Dave

I ran some of your estimate numbers through my trial version of Motocalc: See Attached.

Ignore the part about the ASW-28 in the data....I just forgot to rename the plane to Fly-Q.

Airframe: Fly-Q; 455sq.in; 21.6oz RTF; 6.8oz/sq.ft; Cd=0.037; Cl=0.42; Clopt=0.7; Clmax=1.13.
Stats: 76 W/lb in; 49 W/lb out; 13mph stall; 16mph opt @ 51% (92:34, 82F); 21mph level @ 65% (58:12, 87F); 918ft/min @ 40.3; -100ft/min @ -4.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:41 AM
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Can you maybe rerun those numbers for me with a 920kv?
Something there doesnt look right. Im expecting ~160watts in.
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:29 AM
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Here ya go!

Airframe: Fly-Q; 455sq.in; 22.2oz RTF; 7oz/sq.ft; Cd=0.037; Cl=0.42; Clopt=0.7; Clmax=1.21.
Stats: 140 W/lb in; 94 W/lb out; 12mph stall; 16mph opt @ 41% (82:05, 82F); 21mph level @ 51% (62:25, 86F); 1696ft/min @ 90; -101ft/min @ -4.

Now it looks like a hotliner!
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:04 AM
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Thanks for running those again!
Thats super helpfull!
I hope to maiden by this weekend, Im expecting near vertical, I hope.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:56 PM
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I had a fly-Q 1.8 and it was a great glider.
I traded it to a guy who wanted something faster for a sky sergio, which is a very light model.

The fly-q is basically an Omega 1.8 with an Omega 1.5 fuselage. I really liked the slimmer pod. It could do rolling circles, funny to watch as the wings rotated so slowly, but it is a great model and takes some abuse.

It isn't fully molded, but the D-Tube is molded and very stiff.
I think mine was 19 or 20 ounces. Andy put a much more powerful motor in it and uses it on windier days.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:07 AM
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Tone,

Very funny watching those rolling circles.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:56 PM
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Tone, I dont believe I got the smaller fues. Mine wieghs in at around 22oz, Im pretty sure its mostly fuse wieght. I was really trying to go light and still ended up at 22oz. My 400 eflite outrunner looks a little modest on power now. Im thinking of putting a mega or nue motor in it. But if I leave it alone it still flys fine, and I could put the nue in a micro flash....hmmm. LOL it never ends!

Did you find the wing was about 5/8" off?
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Old 12-08-2008, 01:48 AM
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Well, I am growing up....after spending the second half of this past Summer catching an addiction to thermals with my Easy Glider, I found a deal I couldn't pass up.

A pre-owned Omega 1.8 Electric RTF with battery, full electrics, and Tx/Rx for $320 over at RCG!

I can't wait to fly it!

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Old 05-29-2009, 03:56 AM
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It has been a while and I have a few flights on this bird. It's easily my new favorite plane. I catch thermals more than I can handle. I have developed some neck pains from looking up. I am shopping for a foldable recliner that I can use to fly this plane. I signed up with a club that operates on a HUGE sod farm. Here are some videos from the Omega(not at the sod farm).

@http://www.vimeo.com/4707327


I will answer my question of the original post.

The plane is much lighter than the EGE and has much more efficient airfoils. It indicates lift better and is twitchy compared to the EGE. It rolls pretty nicely and can fly very slowly and make tight circles. It feels like a butterfly whereas the EGE feels more like a cruiser. It is very precise and I can easily land it at my feet. I flew it in about 10mph winds and it had no trouble with the 2200mah Lipo. It climbs like a winch plane. The EGE is more stable and requires less input corrections.

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Old 05-30-2009, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CygnusX1 View Post
It has been a while and I have a few flights on this bird. It's easily my new favorite plane. I catch thermals more than I can handle. I have developed some neck pains from looking up. I am shopping for a foldable recliner that I can use to fly this plane. I signed up with a club that operates on a HUGE sod farm. Here are some videos from the Omega(not at the sod farm).

@http://www.vimeo.com/4707327


I will answer my question of the original post.

The plane is much lighter than the EGE and has much more efficient airfoils. It indicates lift better and is twitchy compared to the EGE. It rolls pretty nicely and can fly very slowly and make tight circles. It feels like a butterfly whereas the EGE feels more like a cruiser. It is very precise and I can easily land it at my feet. I flew it in about 10mph winds and it had no trouble with the 2200mah Lipo. It climbs like a winch plane. The EGE is more stable and requires less input corrections.

Thanks for the clarification - isn't the wing loading about the same as the EGE? (EGE is heaviier but but has more wing area)
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It's pretty close between the two. It pretty much depends on the motor system weights. I think the EGE has less wingloading with its stock motor, but it's no where nearly as efficient aerodynamically. The EGE is more stable which makes it harder to "read" in the sky. IMHO. I could try moving the CG back more in the EGE to de-stabilize it some but it just won't carry it's momentum very well. It seems like a lot of it's energy is used up by the thick foam wings, tails, and fuse.

Imagine throwing a high quality dart. Then imagine the dart is made of foam. That's the difference.

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Got it - Thanks. Open to your suggestions on planes. Woud you recommend the Omega 2 1.8E Poly with flaps or the Omega II 1.8E with ailerons.

http://www.nesail.com/categories.php...21fa3c538ff858

(I was originally looking at the Nelly but am open to input.)

http://www.icare-rc.com/nelly_e.htm
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I originally wanted a Fly-Q because of it's looks and construction quality. Eventually I decided to build my own glider and was considering a Big Bird XL or a Bird of Time. Then this used Omega 1.8 came available so I bought it. I'm very happy with it. It's tough to say what to buy. Once I caught thermals with my foam Easy Glider, and my general flying skills developed, I wanted something more "serious" with all the same control surfaces as the Easy Glider. The Omega so far has more than fit the bill. My next plane will probably be larger, and have spoilers also. I like the simple look of the flat wing, and I also enjoy doing rolls and loops. I have no experience with a poly wing, but I believe that the pros use them for roll stability and to be able to fly R/E (Rudder/Elevator). Personally, I like ailerons but I am not in any competition. I fly for fun, and try to maximize my fun time by finding thermals.

Both the Nelly and the Omega are nice planes. The Omega 1.8E has full span Ailerons that you can use to change wing camber by inching them up or down depending on thermal conditions. I lower them when I am circling in a thermal and then raise them to go seek more lift. This is like a glide-throttle.
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Very cool - thanks.
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