Guillows 24" Beaver
#1

I posted a build thread for this plane on the Guillows forum, but figured I'd show it here, as it's a new kit release and a good one. The laser cut it is well designed, very scale, and goes together easily. The float parts for this plane were cut by hand with 1/32" balsa, but Guillows offers an inexpensive laser cut float kit for the plane. Sheeting the small floats is actually quite easy, and locating the float struts/float mounting is the only difficult part of the project. Hope to maiden it soon.
#3

Bill, I really like your rendition of the Beaver, one of my favorite aircraft. There are dozens of the full scale flying in my part of Canada, I hear the rumble/rattle of those radials many times a day. Last week I hosted an electric "fun scale" event at a local club, and one of the entries was this same kit, though not as colorful, or as neatly built as yours. He had even added functional flaps. Unfortunately, the day was quite windy, so I didn't get to see it fly. In fact, a number of very good looking scratch built models under 36" span chose not to fly, due to the wind, which was a shame, as several had very good static scores, but no flying score, so no chance of winning a prize in their respective classes. Another Guillows entry, from the same builder/pilot, was the Cessna Bird Dog.
My only Beaver build was the 72" Unionville kit, back in '98, built with flaps and both fixed gear and floats. It was a joy to fly, and survived for 7 years, and hundreds of flights, before the inevitable combination of battery failure and pilot error caught up to it. :-(
Brad.
My only Beaver build was the 72" Unionville kit, back in '98, built with flaps and both fixed gear and floats. It was a joy to fly, and survived for 7 years, and hundreds of flights, before the inevitable combination of battery failure and pilot error caught up to it. :-(
Brad.
#4

Nice Beave Bill. Just read over your last posts about your Seabee. I've been thinking that carving a foam Seabee fuselage would probably yield a lighter more scale-like flyer than a built-up version. The wings and tail parts could be built-up or of foam.
My Stinson Reliant has flown with some success, but the right wing strut came undone and the wing slid off. Repairs took another six months, Have not re-maidened it yet.
My Stinson Reliant has flown with some success, but the right wing strut came undone and the wing slid off. Repairs took another six months, Have not re-maidened it yet.
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#5

Thanks Rawy and Brad. Missed your replies. There have been a lot of old plans popping up on the web lately. I'm sure a good Beaver plan could be found. I had been thinking of building a larger one, using a GWS float set I have laying around, at the time the Guillows kit came out. Still would like to build a 36"-40" version.
I saw the BeavAir scheme on a flight sim ad, and had to have one. I recently saw a build in progress, using the old Berkeley plan. Looks like it would build an excellent Beaver.
Take a look at outerzone.uk. They have a few Seabee plans. Some aren't very scale, such as not having the cabin front correct, but this one looks decent. It's made me think of building a smaller one that would be more convenient. They have some nice Stinson plans also, and keep adding plans daily. Awesome plans collection.
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=2308
I saw the BeavAir scheme on a flight sim ad, and had to have one. I recently saw a build in progress, using the old Berkeley plan. Looks like it would build an excellent Beaver.
Nice Beave Bill. Just read over your last posts about your Seabee. I've been thinking that carving a foam Seabee fuselage would probably yield a lighter more scale-like flyer than a built-up version. The wings and tail parts could be built-up or of foam.
My Stinson Reliant has flown with some success, but the right wing strut came undone and the wing slid off. Repairs took another six months, Have not re-maidened it yet.
My Stinson Reliant has flown with some success, but the right wing strut came undone and the wing slid off. Repairs took another six months, Have not re-maidened it yet.
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=2308
#6

Though the M.A.N. Beaver is big,it is very light when built as per the plan:
http://www.airagestore.com/planes/de...-2-beaver.html
I built one years ago,and it was way overpowered with a Saito 45 4-stroke engine,even though I had added an inch to the wing chord to improve stability.It would be an ideal electric candidate,and could be easily scaled down.
I still have the plan,and will revisit the Beaver sometime.
http://www.airagestore.com/planes/de...-2-beaver.html
I built one years ago,and it was way overpowered with a Saito 45 4-stroke engine,even though I had added an inch to the wing chord to improve stability.It would be an ideal electric candidate,and could be easily scaled down.
I still have the plan,and will revisit the Beaver sometime.

#7

The Berkeley is also a nice plan for a 48" build, a bit smaller than 45 size though I believe. The plan is free at outerzone.uk.
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=245
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=245
#8
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I posted a build thread for this plane on the Guillows forum, but figured I'd show it here, as it's a new kit release and a good one. The laser cut it is well designed, very scale, and goes together easily. The float parts for this plane were cut by hand with 1/32" balsa, but Guillows offers an inexpensive laser cut float kit for the plane. Sheeting the small floats is actually quite easy, and locating the float struts/float mounting is the only difficult part of the project. Hope to maiden it soon.
Guess you can see that I'm weaning myself off plastic scale war bird and associated kits, then off n scale (1/160) trains. Flew hand controlled models as a young teen but that was half a century ago......23 posts in the last few days.
I bought the Guillow Super cub which I just finished and after I get my foam PBY up and running (currently in the performance tweaking stage) I am going to build my Beaver. I ordered their float kit which consists of a sheet of balsa with the parts laser etched.....no paper no nothing.
Anyway, the reason for my reply is actually a question. I have what I think to be suitable equipment to run this model as an RC off my pond on my farm, where I live. Did you go RC with yours or just a model for your/a collection?
If you went RC do you have ailerons or just elev/rudder? If ailerons, is there room for a couple more servo's? Did you have to cut out a lot of the support structure (bulkheads) to get room for the parts?
I have the brushless erc 280 with their 12A esc and a 480 mah Lipo battery, 4 ea 4g servos. I hear that engine/battery combination will run about 15 minutes on an easy schedule and that would be plenty for me at a clip.
I applaud your workmanship. Really nice. Mine isn't all that great. Primarily in the learn to fly mode now and looks will have to come later after I tear up a couple dozen learning. Grin.
Reply appreciated.
Thanks,
Mark
#10
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Join Date: Apr 2019
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Hello!
I'm new to the group, and I'm building the laser-cut Guillows Beaver kit. I purchased the Guillows floats to go with it and I'm hoping to get advice from people about the best way to complete the floats.
Specifically, the parts include stringers and forms for everything on the floats but the front tips of the floats, and the instructions simply say to "carve" the fronts from "spare balsa block". I"m wondering about the best way to achieve decent looking results and uniformly consistent for each float?
I've thought about, as an alternative to carving solid balsa block, cutting out "extensions" of the plan forms that follow the curve lines down to the "ends", and covering them with thin cardboard or leftover vacform plastic? Any ideas or suggestions would be very much appreciated -
Don (calmflier)
I'm new to the group, and I'm building the laser-cut Guillows Beaver kit. I purchased the Guillows floats to go with it and I'm hoping to get advice from people about the best way to complete the floats.
Specifically, the parts include stringers and forms for everything on the floats but the front tips of the floats, and the instructions simply say to "carve" the fronts from "spare balsa block". I"m wondering about the best way to achieve decent looking results and uniformly consistent for each float?
I've thought about, as an alternative to carving solid balsa block, cutting out "extensions" of the plan forms that follow the curve lines down to the "ends", and covering them with thin cardboard or leftover vacform plastic? Any ideas or suggestions would be very much appreciated -
Don (calmflier)
#11
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Join Date: Apr 2019
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Hi Bill,
I'm new to the group, and I'm building the laser-cut Guillows Beaver kit. I purchased the Guillows floats to go with it and I'm hoping to get advice from people about the best way to complete the floats. I know that you utilized a different kit source for the floats on your Beaver, but thought you might have some good ideas about this -
Specifically, the parts include stringers and forms for everything on the floats but the front tips of the floats, and the instructions simply say to "carve" the fronts from "spare balsa block". I"m wondering about the best way to achieve decent looking results and uniformly consistent for each float?
I've thought about, as an alternative to carving solid balsa block, cutting out "extensions" of the plan forms that follow the curve lines down to the "ends", and covering them with thin cardboard or leftover vacform plastic? Any ideas or suggestions would be very much appreciated -
Don (calmflier)
I'm new to the group, and I'm building the laser-cut Guillows Beaver kit. I purchased the Guillows floats to go with it and I'm hoping to get advice from people about the best way to complete the floats. I know that you utilized a different kit source for the floats on your Beaver, but thought you might have some good ideas about this -
Specifically, the parts include stringers and forms for everything on the floats but the front tips of the floats, and the instructions simply say to "carve" the fronts from "spare balsa block". I"m wondering about the best way to achieve decent looking results and uniformly consistent for each float?
I've thought about, as an alternative to carving solid balsa block, cutting out "extensions" of the plan forms that follow the curve lines down to the "ends", and covering them with thin cardboard or leftover vacform plastic? Any ideas or suggestions would be very much appreciated -
Don (calmflier)
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