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Old 04-17-2006, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bsoder View Post
i'm looking forward to seeing it. Mine flies really well, it's a lot of fun to roll it.
So the ailerons are big enough I take it
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by firemanbill View Post
Hey Skiman sounds interesting. Could you post a pic of that? That sounds like something I'd like to try as well
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Love it here on the west coast of Florida. We live a LOT closer to the flying field. 15 min v/s 45. Keep an eye out for wingo kits for me. Getting ready to go to SEFF in 2 1/2 weeks. Surrounded by flying clubs. Getting 2 DX6's to take the fqcy pin worries away. Getting the shop in shape, about 1/2 the room I had in MD. drop me a line at......
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by skiman762 View Post
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Some how those photos look nicer than the ones you sent me.

That 5 Star Slow Stick (5*S/S) is gonna be a killer! Should be able to do things only Slow Sticks dream about once in a long while. Hope you do a build thread about it.
 
Old 04-17-2006, 07:35 PM
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I know I'm not sure why they look better on here
Yes she should fly nice hope the wing saddle is wide enough
but if not it can be made that way.
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by skiman762 View Post
So the ailerons are big enough I take it
Yep, they're plenty big. I don't know how much difference there will be with full tips like you have tho, since I cut my tips off and took some out of the middle as well. My wingspan is 31.5", as compared to the stock 45" or so.
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I mixed flaperon/spoileron hoping for some nice High Alpha stuff to
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bsoder View Post
Yep, they're plenty big. I don't know how much difference there will be with full tips like you have tho, since I cut my tips off and took some out of the middle as well. My wingspan is 31.5", as compared to the stock 45" or so.
yeah I'm sure my roll rate won't be as fast but neither are my eyes anymore...lol
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:40 PM
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I'm 40'' at the center of the chord
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by skiman762 View Post
I know I'm not sure why they look better on here
Yes she should fly nice hope the wing saddle is wide enough
but if not it can be made that way.
YUP!

They look sharper, brighter and more vivid. I thought they were different ones. Looks very, very nice!
 
Old 04-17-2006, 08:03 PM
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I should do a build thread after the flight eval
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I should do a build thread after the flight eval
Great!
 
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Jumping back to the start of this thread - the motors linked to will not be very compatible with a SS. They want to turn a small prop (8") compared to what the SS really likes (11").

The same line is available with a lower KV wind: BM2410-09Y claiming 11x4.7 prop gets you up to 21.5 ozs. at less than 10 amps.
I don't think it really makes that much thrust in the real world, but with 3 cell lipo's it's a decent kick in the butt.

I used the 09Y's for my GWS Beaver (with snow skis) and for a project I named SloP38Stik. These are pics before I added the outrunners and a boom profiles (I just couldn't pass up a chance for "Look at mine! Look at mine!").

It was barely flyable with a pair of stock 350's but the little outrunners pull it around ok. All up its 26 ounces - more power would be wonderful, but I was trying to keep the cost down.
It has ailerons w/2 HS55's and lot's of control throw, but rolls are slow and eat up a lot of altitude.
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Old 04-17-2006, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LOW-N-SLOW View Post
Jumping back to the start of this thread - the motors linked to will not be very compatible with a SS. They want to turn a small prop (8") compared to what the SS really likes (11").

The same line is available with a lower KV wind: BM2410-09Y claiming 11x4.7 prop gets you up to 21.5 ozs. at less than 10 amps.
I don't think it really makes that much thrust in the real world, but with 3 cell lipo's it's a decent kick in the butt.

I used the 09Y's for my GWS Beaver (with snow skis) and for a project I named SloP38Stik. These are pics before I added the outrunners and a boom profiles (I just couldn't pass up a chance for "Look at mine! Look at mine!").

It was barely flyable with a pair of stock 350's but the little outrunners pull it around ok. All up its 26 ounces - more power would be wonderful, but I was trying to keep the cost down.
It has ailerons w/2 HS55's and lot's of control throw, but rolls are slow and eat up a lot of altitude.
I don't see that motor over here. Will the one that I suggested not make any difference with an 8x4 compared with the 300 ? I think that the SS is pretty cool but it could be less 'slow' and this seemed to be a cheapish upgrade. I have a spare motor from my Edge 540T but the price of another motor and 30A/40A ESC is only a little more than the cost of the ESC on its own.

Why does the SS need an 11" prop ? This motor is more powerful even if it only swings an 8x4 ?

It seems that quite a few other people use the same motor that I have suggested.

Your model looks pretty cool. I'm sure that there are many other cool things that people can add to this thread. For example, other mods such as aerial photography, bomb bays, etc.

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Old 04-17-2006, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by skiman762 View Post
sharp looking

Yours looks neat, too. FYI, my thickness 1.5". I'm pretty sure yours will be a bit thicker. I think you're really gonna like the wing. My slows down very fast (Drag), which makes similar to the stock SS, in that you can still set it down in a small area, even though it lands just a "tad" faster.
In fact, my flies very much like a Stock SS, it just doesn't soar nearly as well.
Oh, being light and now a straight (no dyhedral) wing, it really gets bounced around in the wind, but also being light, you can bring right back on course.
I remember Don Lowe once said, light is still better. His reasoning was and I agree, "True, a lighter machine is more easily blown off course, but because it's lighter it also takes less energy (control input) to bring it back on course".
Tell me how you like the setup.
PS...... I mentioned even with the new wing, mine still had no tip stall characteristics, let me know if yours reacts the same.....
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Old 04-17-2006, 09:31 PM
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I'm at 1.75 thick looks like you have a tad more aileron but I think I'll be ok with my setup
It's a prototype but my prototypes either get recycled or find a spot in the hanger never do get around to building the secound one for some reason
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Originally Posted by skiman762 View Post
I'm at 1.75 thick looks like you have a tad more aileron but I think I'll be ok with my setup
It's a prototype but my prototypes either get recycled or find a spot in the hanger never do get around to building the secound one for some reason

My brother is gonna cut another wing for me with a double taper, like a yak (etc.). I'm hoping is will cut down on the wiggling back and forth in the wind.
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Old 04-17-2006, 09:37 PM
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at speed maybe don't know about crusing
I have a 52'' yak and it can be a handfull at times
maybe a wing like you have but 1 inch think
after all 1.5 is pretty thick for a 18 oz plane
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Old 04-17-2006, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bsoder View Post
Brian,

I was so thinking about your speed stick when I read that comment about the wings! :p

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Old 04-17-2006, 10:36 PM
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I'm putting one together with 2 wings glued together with a spar and no dihedral and ailerons like a fatwing fun fly still haven't flown it yet it's actual done just making final adjustments and working on the batt mount came in AUW just over 20oz
When I first read the "2 wings" part, I thought you were making a Slow Stick biplane. Now there's an idea. Would be a trip.
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[quote=netdudeuk;63027]I don't see that motor over here. Will the one that I suggested not make any difference with an 8x4 compared with the 300 ? I think that the SS is pretty cool but it could be less 'slow' and this seemed to be a cheapish upgrade. I have a spare motor from my Edge 540T but the price of another motor and 30A/40A ESC is only a little more than the cost of the ESC on its own.

Why does the SS need an 11" prop ? This motor is more powerful even if it only swings an 8x4 ?


Big, fluffy slowflyers with undercambered wings prefer a large blade taking small bites of air (lower pitch) with a motor that produces best torque at lower RPM.
Sleek, slippery fast planes (like The Edge) develop best speed with small props on motors that spin at high RPM.
Think of it like a big wood rowboat compared to a kayak and the oars are like propellers...does that make sense?
Any inrunner motor can have it's torque maximized at lower RPM with gear reduction. Outrunners usually depend on number of windings to determine most efficient torque/rpm/amp characteristics.
Well, that's what I've been told anyway, and it's matched up to my experiences so far - but I'm sure there are other points of view on this.
BTW- I got my 09Y from www.aero-nuts.com
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Old 04-17-2006, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill G View Post
When I first read the "2 wings" part, I thought you were making a Slow Stick biplane. Now there's an idea. Would be a trip.
I know it is somewhat sacrilege to speak the name of that "other" site, but if you look around over at RCGroups, there are quite a few threads about Slow Stick perversions, such as bipes, twins, amphibians, AP platforms, 8-motor , and so on. I'm sure there are plenty on RCU also.

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Old 04-17-2006, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LOW-N-SLOW View Post
Big, fluffy slowflyers with undercambered wings prefer a large blade taking small bites of air (lower pitch) with a motor that produces best torque at lower RPM.
Sleek, slippery fast planes (like The Edge) develop best speed with small props on motors that spin at high RPM.
Think of it like a big wood rowboat compared to a kayak and the oars are like propellers...does that make sense?
Any inrunner motor can have it's torque maximized at lower RPM with gear reduction. Outrunners usually depend on number of windings to determine most efficient torque/rpm/amp characteristics.
Well, that's what I've been told anyway, and it's matched up to my experiences so far - but I'm sure there are other points of view on this.
BTW- I got my 09Y from www.aero-nuts.com
Hmmm. My SS just LOVES my 400XT bl swinging an APC 8x6E and 3S lipo!

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Old 04-17-2006, 10:54 PM
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Here's a couple of Bipe pics for ya!

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Old 04-17-2006, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by crxmanpat View Post
Hmmm. My SS just LOVES my 400XT bl swinging an APC 8x6E and 3S lipo!

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So you think that 8x6E is going to be the way to go? Did you try the 9x4.7SF?
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