WWI planes
06-30-2010, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by scalercflyer
The Tiger Moth was a WWII primary trainer, not a WWI airplane. But it's very nice! I am partial to the Tiger Moth. They fly great! marty
06-30-2010, 03:05 AM
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Just tell a tale about how it was developed for WW1 but the English high command did not know enough about airplanes at the time and did not accept it as a good plane. It set in a hanger till needed as a trainer for WWII. (you can sell this crowd anything as long as it fits WWI)
06-30-2010, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by scalercflyer
De, 79cj, I posted this before but since there is a renewed interest in the DVIII, here goes.
http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/bi...dviii_nx94100/
http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/bi...dviii_nx94100/
06-30-2010, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by scalercflyer
De, 79cj, I posted this before but since there is a renewed interest in the DVIII, here goes.
http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/bi...dviii_nx94100/
http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/bi...dviii_nx94100/
Love this one too...
http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/do...ot/ms_type_a1/
SO much good info there.
06-30-2010, 10:05 PM
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It question and answer time. A while back I watched an old movie about WW1 flyers(maybe Dawn Patrol). In it the pilots had a long scarf attached to the top of their flying caps. Did the real WW1 pilots do this or is it just Hollywood? I finally found a materal I like to use to make scarfs and pennets. My wife made me throw away an old blue streachy T shirt that was worn thin. I first cut strips with the length of what I would call the grain but when streached it would curl and make a string. I cut across the grain and it will remain flat. I tied it and it still remained flat almost to the knot. Everything I had tried before had looked stiff and stood straight out. This is so soft it will hang down no mater how you turn the plane and blows back when flying.
06-30-2010, 10:23 PM
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The purpose of a silk scarf was simply to prevent chafing the neck on the cloth or leather jacket/coat/suit collar.
While streamers were attatched to the wing struts to identify a group leader I have never read of a streamer/scarf attatched to a flight cap. Seems it would just yank the head backwards at 100+ MPH, if not yank the cap right off. However, as flamboyant as WWI pilots were, I would not be surprised at anything worn, painted or done by those knights of the sky.
While streamers were attatched to the wing struts to identify a group leader I have never read of a streamer/scarf attatched to a flight cap. Seems it would just yank the head backwards at 100+ MPH, if not yank the cap right off. However, as flamboyant as WWI pilots were, I would not be surprised at anything worn, painted or done by those knights of the sky.
06-30-2010, 10:31 PM
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This question raises a contention I have seen in almost every historical group I have ever been involved with. There seems to be two camps, in the parlance of one of the groups, "Fun Mavens" and "Authenticity Nazis". The greatest difference is the "fun" camp allows for "it is possible" while the "Authenticators" say nothing is allowed without documentation that it was done.
As a hobby I go with fun. As a historian I want primary documents. At the field I have fun, in the classroom I do science. The two are both valid viewpoints. Just don't confuse one for the other.
As a hobby I go with fun. As a historian I want primary documents. At the field I have fun, in the classroom I do science. The two are both valid viewpoints. Just don't confuse one for the other.
07-01-2010, 01:58 AM
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The movie was made when they still had Camels to fly. Some of the scenes are of the planes in the air and the pilots have the scarf on top the flight cap fluttering behind them. I think Errol Flyn was in the movie. I think all the airplanes in the movie were WW1 planes. You can look at my planes and know how I build them. I have the only WW1 Night Fury. LOL
07-02-2010, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by degreen60
Does anyone know how long the squardon leader pennats that were attached to the outer aft wing struts were?
07-02-2010, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by degreen60
The movie was made when they still had Camels to fly. Some of the scenes are of the planes in the air and the pilots have the scarf on top the flight cap fluttering behind them. I think Errol Flyn was in the movie. I think all the airplanes in the movie were WW1 planes. You can look at my planes and know how I build them. I have the only WW1 Night Fury. LOL
07-02-2010, 03:18 AM
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There were two versions of Dawn Patrol. 1930 and 1938(Flynn). Hell's Angels 1930 from Howard Hughes. All used a mix of WWI and faked WWI aircraft. Some WWI aircraft were used as other WWI aircraft (IE: Morse Scouts as Camels). It seems within a decade of the end of the war, most military equipment had all but vanished.
07-02-2010, 04:42 AM
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I don't remember which movie I saw. I know some of the flyers had a scarf attached to the top of the flying cap. I don't think I have see an old photo of a pilot with that. I am guessing it is just Hollywood.
07-02-2010, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by degreen60
I don't remember which movie I saw. I know some of the flyers had a scarf attached to the top of the flying cap. I don't think I have see an old photo of a pilot with that. I am guessing it is just Hollywood.
BTW, Basil Rathbone, who played the commander who Errol Flynn was constantly at odds with - great in the old Sherlock Holmes movies. Quite a contrast from the current Robert Downey Jr bit.
07-12-2010, 05:46 PM
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Very sad to report, but my beloved SE5a (over there <------) is out of commission for a while.
I broke rule number one, and had the sun in my face when flying, and the plane was about 100 yard away. Got disorientated, and down it went. I'm VERY fortunate and thankful that it went down level, and not cartwheeling. Also, it was in 1 foot tall grass.
Motor mount is shattered, and the real spruce landing gear rear legs were shattered and shoved into the lower wing. Cowl/radiator is a bit banged up on the lower edge. All in all, it's really not super bad. Light planes don't have a lot of mass to crush themselves with!
I don't have pics of it yet, and I didn't take a pic of it in the field. But since this is the WWI thread, I'll probably put it out in my yard and take a "historical" pic of it banged up and nosed in.
I broke rule number one, and had the sun in my face when flying, and the plane was about 100 yard away. Got disorientated, and down it went. I'm VERY fortunate and thankful that it went down level, and not cartwheeling. Also, it was in 1 foot tall grass.
Motor mount is shattered, and the real spruce landing gear rear legs were shattered and shoved into the lower wing. Cowl/radiator is a bit banged up on the lower edge. All in all, it's really not super bad. Light planes don't have a lot of mass to crush themselves with!
I don't have pics of it yet, and I didn't take a pic of it in the field. But since this is the WWI thread, I'll probably put it out in my yard and take a "historical" pic of it banged up and nosed in.
07-13-2010, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 7car7
Very sad to report, but my beloved SE5a (over there <------) is out of commission for a while.
I broke rule number one, and had the sun in my face when flying, and the plane was about 100 yard away. Got disorientated, and down it went. I'm VERY fortunate and thankful that it went down level, and not cartwheeling. Also, it was in 1 foot tall grass.
Motor mount is shattered, and the real spruce landing gear rear legs were shattered and shoved into the lower wing. Cowl/radiator is a bit banged up on the lower edge. All in all, it's really not super bad. Light planes don't have a lot of mass to crush themselves with!
I don't have pics of it yet, and I didn't take a pic of it in the field. But since this is the WWI thread, I'll probably put it out in my yard and take a "historical" pic of it banged up and nosed in.
I broke rule number one, and had the sun in my face when flying, and the plane was about 100 yard away. Got disorientated, and down it went. I'm VERY fortunate and thankful that it went down level, and not cartwheeling. Also, it was in 1 foot tall grass.
Motor mount is shattered, and the real spruce landing gear rear legs were shattered and shoved into the lower wing. Cowl/radiator is a bit banged up on the lower edge. All in all, it's really not super bad. Light planes don't have a lot of mass to crush themselves with!
I don't have pics of it yet, and I didn't take a pic of it in the field. But since this is the WWI thread, I'll probably put it out in my yard and take a "historical" pic of it banged up and nosed in.
