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12-27-2010, 10:07 PM
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Posted By dbcisco

If Section 2 allows for non-AMA members to fly...

If Section 2 allows for non-AMA members to fly using AMA rules then why was Section 3 even put in there?

Answer: Section 2 requires AMA membership. That is why the AMA wants to "Eliminate Section...
12-27-2010, 09:38 PM
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Posted By dbcisco

So the ARC Documents are frauds and you aren't on...

So the ARC Documents are frauds and you aren't on the AMA Strategic Task Force, Chair of the AMA Leader Member Program Development Committee and AMA Forum moderator?

Seems that anyone with a...
12-27-2010, 09:28 PM
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Posted By dbcisco

As if our AMA leadership is a bunch of saints. ...

As if our AMA leadership is a bunch of saints.
Get real.
You think the FAA is out to stop modelers from having fun but that a handful of amateurs running the AMA are above trying to increase...
12-27-2010, 09:16 PM
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Posted By dbcisco

The $1.3M suit occured in 2003. "$1,350,000...

The $1.3M suit occured in 2003.

"$1,350,000 recovery in a defective product case where a model airplane caused a leg fracture. Plaintiff, a 48 year old United Airlines pilot when he was struck by...
12-27-2010, 08:42 PM
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Posted By dbcisco

AC 91-57 is here today, and has been for 40...

AC 91-57 is here today, and has been for 40 years.
The FAA said, "We are giving you guidelines, please follow them". The AMA said, "We are going to make up our own guidelines, we don't care what you...
12-27-2010, 08:35 PM
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Posted By dbcisco

Section 3 is fine for park fliers and, if you...

Section 3 is fine for park fliers and, if you read the additional recommendations in the document I posted, could cover 99% of model aircraft with minor alterations. What reason does the AMA have in...
12-27-2010, 07:57 PM
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Posted By dbcisco

Thanks Bill. I know the aircraft are regulated. ...

Thanks Bill. I know the aircraft are regulated.
Nascar is constantly revising their safety regulations and the drivers often comlain about being over regulated by NASCAR. See this article....
12-27-2010, 07:11 PM
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Posted By dbcisco

Name another sport where the people not involved...

Name another sport where the people not involved in the sport are in danger of getting maimed or killed.
Closest I can think of is getting beaned by a ball in the stands at a baseball game.
12-27-2010, 07:07 PM
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Posted By dbcisco

As for the AMA safety record, a $1.3M payment by...

As for the AMA safety record, a $1.3M payment by the AMA in a lawsuit where the AMA "safety test" distressed a control line plane linkage so that it broke loose and crippled a by-stander at an AMA...
12-27-2010, 05:11 PM
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Posted By dbcisco

I am more concerned about the AMA wanting to...

I am more concerned about the AMA wanting to remove Section 3. Under section 3, I (and millions of park flyers) can fly all my planes unrestricted. With section 3 removed millions of park flyers will...
12-27-2010, 06:52 AM
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Posted By dbcisco

I may be in Philly but I have been a Vikings and...

I may be in Philly but I have been a Vikings and Packers fan since the 60's. Just gotta keep it a secret around here. : )
12-27-2010, 06:25 AM
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Posted By dbcisco

They moved the Eagles/Vikings game to Tuesday. ...

They moved the Eagles/Vikings game to Tuesday.

The Vikings would have had too much an edge in the snow. : )
12-27-2010, 06:20 AM
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Posted By dbcisco

The FAA doesn't need teeth, they make rules to...

The FAA doesn't need teeth, they make rules to follow. Hurt someone or something by wilfully violating the rules you can be looking at far more than a fine.
The rules will set the basis for...
12-27-2010, 05:59 AM
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Posted By dbcisco

I am always amazed at how we often get less snow...

I am always amazed at how we often get less snow than our southern cousins.
12-27-2010, 05:44 AM
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Posted By dbcisco

Just outside Philly PA. About six inches and...

Just outside Philly PA. About six inches and still falling. 26 degrees F with occasional gusts of wind at about 25 MPH. Snow drifts back as soon as I finish shoveling it. Very fluffy and pretty to...
12-27-2010, 05:29 AM
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Posted By dbcisco

In cases of imrisonment it would have to be bad....

In cases of imrisonment it would have to be bad. Like most traffic violations are ussually fines but negligent homicide (DUI fatality) goes under negligent homicide laws. Even with just the AC in...
12-27-2010, 05:04 AM
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Posted By dbcisco

It would be enforced the way every other law is...

It would be enforced the way every other law is enforced. Get caught and you are arrested or fined. Of course the AMA will actually have to abide by what ever the FAA comes out with. These will not...
12-27-2010, 04:35 AM
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Posted By dbcisco

The "lost planes" thing is way out of proportion....

The "lost planes" thing is way out of proportion. Most of them are now soda cans and reynolds wrap. The FAA just never kept track of aircraft that were scrapped as there wasn't an unregistration...
12-27-2010, 04:15 AM
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Posted By dbcisco

I am an AMA member and I do not trust the current...

I am an AMA member and I do not trust the current leadership. I do not believe most of what the AMA says but I do want to try and figure out what they are doing, or trying to do.

I am also a USA...
12-27-2010, 03:03 AM
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Posted By dbcisco

You are still "working for the AMA" volunteer or...

You are still "working for the AMA" volunteer or not. That IMHO makes you suspect of bias. You are affiliated with the AMA and should disclose that in your posts.

"If you are a manufacturer,...
12-27-2010, 02:41 AM
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Views: 22,332
Posted By dbcisco

Wasted so much space with off-topic material I...

Wasted so much space with off-topic material I almost missed that you said the Q&A will be recorded.
Try and keep it simple.
12-27-2010, 02:38 AM
Replies: 154
Views: 22,332
Posted By dbcisco

So that isn't you moderating the AMA forum? ...

So that isn't you moderating the AMA forum?

"Murcoflyer"
"Frank"
"Leader Member -DIV"
"STF Member"

If it is then why are you hiding your AMA connection here?
I think there is someithing...
12-27-2010, 02:21 AM
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Views: 22,332
Posted By dbcisco

I am not rich enough to travel that far for what...

I am not rich enough to travel that far for what is guaranteed to be a waste of time. There will be no useful answers from the FAA unless they are planning on committing a felony. All we will get is...
12-27-2010, 02:10 AM
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Posted By dbcisco

Considering the FAA is forbidden by Federal law...

Considering the FAA is forbidden by Federal law to comment on the rule making process, this is going to be either a rather pointless or a totally illegal Q&A. The AMA alleges (not quite true BTW)...
12-27-2010, 01:54 AM
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Posted By dbcisco

Murcoflyer, considering you work for the AMA, I...

Murcoflyer, considering you work for the AMA, I am not supprised that you are going out of your way to defend the AMA.

The truth is on page six of the ARC document, eliminating section 3 would do...
12-27-2010, 01:13 AM
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Views: 22,332
Posted By dbcisco

Section 3 was too restrictive so remove it...

Section 3 was too restrictive so remove it completely?

How about work towards reasonable rules for everyone?

Please explain how the AMA will "administer" its own rules to non-members?

I...
12-27-2010, 12:17 AM
Replies: 154
Views: 22,332
Posted By dbcisco

What other CBO is there besides the AMA? The FAA...

What other CBO is there besides the AMA? The FAA couldn't think of any because they keep saying "such as the AMA".
Administered by..., only through membership can the AMA administer anything.
...
12-27-2010, 12:13 AM
Replies: 154
Views: 22,332
Posted By dbcisco

"The AMA is not out to force all modelers to join...

"The AMA is not out to force all modelers to join the AMA."
Yes it is.

"They are there to protect the rights of gun owners, members of the NRA or not. Same is true for the AMA."

The AMA does...
12-27-2010, 12:05 AM
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Views: 22,332
Posted By dbcisco

crxmanpat, how could you miss it? it's the first...

crxmanpat, how could you miss it? it's the first paragraph:

"2.1 Applicability
Model Aircraft operations that are conducted in accordance with an FAA accepted set of standards established and...
12-26-2010, 11:58 PM
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Views: 22,332
Posted By dbcisco

AMA recommendation top of page six, "Eliminate...

AMA recommendation top of page six, "Eliminate section 3 in its entirity". Section 3 is the provisions for flying outside the AMA (the only FAA recognized CBO in the entire document).
That...
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