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wattman 03-16-2012 08:25 PM

yeah hooray

:d

HobbyJumper 03-16-2012 09:41 PM

Congratulations and great news. Gives me hope that I will one day get mine off the ground for more five seconds before crashing. One thing I am not good at is landing fast.



Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 861623)
I added 1.5 oz in front of the firewall of the GP Fokker DVII. Took it out for a crash test and boy did it flunk the test. It flys great. I got all the controls in trim and it will fly straight and level till wind changes it. It lands a little fast but still made a nice soft touchdown followed by forward flip in the grass with no damage. I am going to add weight to the nose of the SE5A and see how it flys.


degreen60 03-24-2012 08:08 PM

I added one oz of weight to the front of my GP SE5A. I have changed the plane from a tiger to a kitten. I can now take my eyes off the plane and when I look back it is still flying level. It did land fast today but maybe with more pratice I can land slower. I think GP set the planes up so they would stunt easy. When I rebuild the SPAD I will balance it forward of point GP shows.

Ryan Flyer 03-25-2012 04:04 PM

GP WW1 landing
 
I fly the GP Nieuport XI and I have found that is really better to land fast. It seems to lose control and bounce really bad if you try to slow down to much. This might just be where I have it balanced though.
Pat

TM4197 04-05-2012 03:48 PM

All right!! I finally got airborne, weather held up for a hour or more. Got the N-17, SE5a, D-VII, Spad and Tiger Moth all up and back down with no issues. It looked like I was smoking on each takeoff, but determined it was dust coming off the wings from a long rest in the hanger. :D

wattman 04-05-2012 06:17 PM

TM4197 sez " determined it was dust coming off the wings from a long rest in the hanger "

I hear you there , because its on my slow flyers here . :D

degreen60 04-05-2012 07:22 PM

Weather is good, wind down, now it is those little black bitting bugs that keep me from flying. I have net to go over head but they bite through the net where it touches skin. Sometimes they get so thick on the front of the net I have trouble seeing the plane and have to land. Well they will be gone in a couple of months.

TM4197 04-05-2012 07:45 PM

Don,, sounds like you need a 1/4 scale Pawnee and do some spraying in that back field!:D

degreen60 04-10-2012 05:32 PM

History channel has "WW1 in color". They have used computer to change B/W flim and pictures taken durning WW1 into color. I am watching to see how they colored the planes.

7car7 04-11-2012 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 864883)
History channel has "WW1 in color". They have used computer to change B/W flim and pictures taken durning WW1 into color. I am watching to see how they colored the planes.

Thanks Don for the heads up. Hope to check that out.

touche 04-12-2012 04:45 AM

maxford Albatros DIII
 
Well, I'm back in the chilly north and have found some time to start the Maxford Albatros DIII I ordered this winter.
Got the motor mounted..HURC 450 Slo fly..880KV,30 amp ESC, Orange X RX and servos for R/E mounted. Did some repainting for the small parts, put some screen in the radiator. Removed and sanded the cabanes and 1 coat of tan instead of black. Put on a few more coats and woodgrain them a bit.
The wheels were pure crap so I got a pair of Williams Bros wheels for it. Got one servo mounted in the upper wing..will give it a coat or two of liquitex to dull down the red. Was debating on an entire repaint but figured I'd suffer with the red. Few more days it will look like a plane.
If and when it warms up Ill get the Sensei out and get some lessons. Then I can take her out for a test crash or two..lol Then ship it to you know who..;-)

degreen60 05-02-2012 12:54 PM

I watched episode 3 of WWI IN COLOUR. It is about the airplane. I did not see one person with a scarf around the neck that would hang out to flap in the wind. If you want something flapping in the wind then put leader pendants on the struts. Two for squadron leader and one flight leader. Pendants were only used early in the war. Later they were removed so the emeny would not consentrate on the planes with the pendants.

7car7 05-03-2012 06:57 PM

Oh, man! But the scarves look sooooo cool when flying by low and slow.

:D

TM4197 05-03-2012 07:35 PM

This is like Doctors saying coffee is good for ya and then another report comes out and says its not..it will kill ya. All the history I have read states pilots..not all.....wore linen around the necks to protect them from shafeing. Not all pilots did it...not all pilots wore leather flying helmets, some wore knitted hats. I have been around aviation all my life, and heard pilots when I was just a kid say they wore scarfs around the neck, and they perfered silk if all possible, it was the softess and provided the best protection. I am going to take thier word for it..!! All my pilots will be wearing white scarfs around the collar...Thats the way it was..thats the way I will present it. If I can find a old soul; that tells me it was JUST not the case.....then so be it. But, there is a ton of photographs out there that show pilots wearing the scarfs. :tc:

degreen60 05-18-2012 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 867697)
This is like Doctors saying coffee is good for ya and then another report comes out and says its not..it will kill ya. All the history I have read states pilots..not all.....wore linen around the necks to protect them from shafeing. Not all pilots did it...not all pilots wore leather flying helmets, some wore knitted hats. I have been around aviation all my life, and heard pilots when I was just a kid say they wore scarfs around the neck, and they perfered silk if all possible, it was the softess and provided the best protection. I am going to take thier word for it..!! All my pilots will be wearing white scarfs around the collar...Thats the way it was..thats the way I will present it. If I can find a old soul; that tells me it was JUST not the case.....then so be it. But, there is a ton of photographs out there that show pilots wearing the scarfs. :tc:

But were the scarfs loose and flapping behind them?

degreen60 05-18-2012 11:04 PM

I bought a lot of several differant size props. It had both high and low pitch props in it. I have yet to find any plane that I like a low pitch prop on. My MS-N has a 10x8 prop and takes off climbing at full throtle. Flys great at half throtle and after flight battery is either cool or slightly warm. I changed the prop to an 11x4.7, it almost had no climb and had to fly at full throtle. After landing the battery was hot. I tried some of my eflite planes and they did the samething. I think the reason the planes in the videos look like they are floating out of my hand on launch is because the high pitch prop puts a good airstream over the wings even when the plane has almost no forward speed.

TM4197 05-19-2012 01:08 AM

good question about the scarfs!!! I have no clue!!

I agree about the props!:D

floss 05-20-2012 11:23 AM

I saw some scarves on an auction site selling aviation memorabilia a short while back, touted as genuine items from WW1. Interesting thing was they were not long like the scarves that we see today. They looked like they were only long enough to wrap twice around the neck and then tuck in with nothing left flapping, sort've like a neck wrap that you might wear on a motorbike today to stop the winter air getting between your jacket and helmet.

degreen60 05-20-2012 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by floss (Post 870157)
I saw some scarves on an auction site selling aviation memorabilia a short while back, touted as genuine items from WW1. Interesting thing was they were not long like the scarves that we see today. They looked like they were only long enough to wrap twice around the neck and then tuck in with nothing left flapping, sort've like a neck wrap that you might wear on a motorbike today to stop the winter air getting between your jacket and helmet.

In the WWI movies taken durning the war I only see short scarves with nothing flapping. Now if you want to go hollywood in one of the movies, maybe hells angels, they even have a long pennet attached to the top of the pilots helment. I put leader pennets on one of my planes but sense attaching them I have see pictures of planes with them and mine are too short. I am going to make new ones that are long enough to touch the ground.(now now, when the plane is not flying LOL)

quorneng 05-20-2012 01:11 PM

I truth I doubt very much they would have had anything flapping about. Far to distracting when you are trying to keep track of enemy planes approaching from behind.
The scarves were worn primarily to prevent chaffing from the jacket collar and to stop the castor oil from seeping down your neck.
I am sure a long scarf dangling in the slip stream in combat is a Hollywood invention.
Wing tip streamers were sometimes used as a means of identification.

wattman 05-20-2012 03:16 PM

If you have ridden motorcycles at 80 MPH plus , with anything that is loose and can flap......think about at 125 mph and a scarf in the windstream tugging at your neck :concern:
My thought is no , to the long scarf blowing in the wind , in WW1 combat .

TM4197 05-21-2012 01:35 AM

So, I guess all the new pics I will see of everyones planes this year will have the pilots scarfs cut or tucked down the side! Must be a snoppy thing..I'll keep mine flapping in the breeze!

Big Johnny 05-21-2012 03:22 AM

Hey WWI fanatics. I to love early aviation. I have several of Peter Rakes plans. I'm in the process of cutting out parts for his Avro 504. I also want to build the Spad XIII, but it a little intimidating looking at the plans.

TM4197 05-21-2012 03:27 AM

Good luck on your build! Make sure you show your build on here!!! I would love to see the 504!

50+AirYears 05-21-2012 04:48 AM

I used to hear that WW-I pilots wore silk or linen scarves both for protection from cold and chaffing, but also to periodically clean the Castor Oil from the rotary engines off their faces and goggles. Never got to ask any WW-I flying aces about it, most of the WW-I veterans still around while I was growing up had been in the Army or Navy. Seemss to me having a long tail flapping in the breeze could be a dangerous distraction in those old flying death traps, especially in combat.


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