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scalercflyer 08-17-2008 03:46 PM

Very nice Steve! :cool: I have the same kit. I think it's going to be my winter project. :) I did, however, notice that you are going into combat with no machine guns! :eek: This is very dangerous as you know! :eek: Don't let degreen know! He's always looking for an easy kill. (Yeah Guys I know it's red) Martin

WWI Ace 08-17-2008 08:49 PM

Martin is getting soft in his old age!! Steve

Percyflyer 08-17-2008 09:10 PM

The guns are in the shop getting refitted, will be installed before any sorties.


degreen60 08-18-2008 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 458523)
Very nice Steve! :cool: I have the same kit. I think it's going to be my winter project. :) I did, however, notice that you are going into combat with no machine guns! :eek: This is very dangerous as you know! :eek: Don't let degreen know! He's always looking for an easy kill. (Yeah Guys I know it's red) Martin

And now I have my SE5A to help my Camel to look for those red planes with black crosses.

scalercflyer 08-19-2008 02:37 AM

Wattage Camel
Well Boys my second flight on my Wattage Camel should be this weekend. :D I fitted her with some decent tires and should be able to ROG without any problem.:D:D Hmmm I did mention I have Sir Percy (complete with mustache) flying her with loaded Vickers just looking for some fresh meat? ????:eek::D Gee has Marty gone over to the side of the Allies? :eek: Stay tuned everyone for the next episode...... Marty

cropduster 08-19-2008 02:51 AM

Hi Marty,

I hope your Camel flies well. I just finished a "Benson" Albatros DV-A and its waiting for its first flight. Too bad we're a little to far apart. They would look great in a simulated dog-fight ( my Spandaus don't work yet, ammos hard to find).

By the way Marty, don't fly straight and level in a combat zone when there's Hun on your six.

FlyingMonkey 08-19-2008 03:18 AM

where does one buy a wattage camel?

degreen60 08-19-2008 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by FlyingMonkey (Post 459544)
where does one buy a wattage camel?

Watch the sales on here, rcgroup, and ebay. I see one now and then.

FlyingMonkey 08-19-2008 03:35 AM


Cookie 08-19-2008 04:11 AM

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scalercflyer, I've had two of the Wattage Sopwith Camels. They're great little flyers with a 400 size brushless motor. here are a couple of photos of the ones I have. I did one to look like a German plane. You've probably seen these photos before. Cookie

dbcisco 08-19-2008 06:41 AM

I picked up a wattage sopwith a few months ago. Decided to cut my teeth on a Picomoth and Eflite jenny first. They came out fine, now I need the courage for this one. There seems to be alot more measuring and cutting than I am used to. Even the Guillow's bipes (three of them waiting on the shelf) seem less of a challenge.
Any advice?

Cookie 08-19-2008 08:12 AM

Wattage Sopwith Camel advice?

Use a brushless motor. I use the Esskay 400XT which is an outrunner. GWS 9x5 DD prop. The kit motor doesn't have enough power to fly it with any authority. Put real wheels on it, like Williams Bros. vintage 3" wheels. The supplied wheels are too flimsy and they wobble like crazy under pressure (when rolling). I use a 3 cell LiPo battery in the range of from 1050 mah to 1500 mah. Mount the battery on the firewall, inside of the cowl, below the motor (to help to achieve the desired Center of Gravity. This kit comes with two part wings (wing halves) and they're connected by a small metal tube with rods running out of the ends of the tube. The tubes are then glued to the leading edge of the wings for strength. I used carbon fiber tubes instead of the supplied fiberglass tubes. Don't bother to put ailerons on it. I tried it and with the dihedral in the wings, it doesn't want to turn much with aileron control. It flies fine with rudder and elevator only.

dbcisco 08-19-2008 09:06 AM

I was thinking of making the sopwith with a replaceable motor mount set up like I did on the Moth. I can simply pull one motor/gearbox and replace it by removing a single retaining pin. I can go 180/400/BL in a few minutes (changing the ESC for BL is a bit longer).
As for wheels, I have the wheels from the Jenny to use, the Jenny got a set of plastic and foam ones the I liked better.

I am concerned about getting the dihedral right with the description for assembling the wings in the manual (I actually read it:tc:). Also, cutting out the area in the fuselage for the tail seems a bit difficult. Did Wattage rush these to production or what? Very crude compared to the others I did.

I expected the CG to be a trick with the short nose, are there any other surprises.

Cookie 08-19-2008 09:32 AM

Not a big deal. Put a sheet of wax paper on the work bench. You just secure one half of the wing to the work bench, line up the dihedral brace along the front edge of the wing that's secured to the work bench, then hold the other half of the wing along the dihedral brace rod to make sure that the rods line up with the leading edges of both wing halves. THEN you glue the rod to the secured half of the wing first with 5 minute epoxy and hold it in place until it sets, making sure that it doesn't shift out of place so that the other half of the wing will still line up with the other section of the rod. Once the 5 minute epoxy is set good, you can lift up the wing with the rod glued to it and secure the other wing half and glue it using the same method. The bend in the metal tubing that holds the rods will establish your dihedral.

From what I recall, there is a flat area on the top back section of the fuselage that the horizontal stabilizer glues onto. Just check to make sure the surface is level before gluing the horizontal stabilizer onto the fuselage.

It's pretty straight forward. No surprises that I ran into. Of course, you'll want to secure your control rods so that they don't give or flex or bow when the servo is trying to control the rudder or elevator. I used nyrod tubes and secured them in place then ran the control wires through them.

Sack time.

degreen60 08-19-2008 01:09 PM

I modified my Camel. I did not use the brace rods supplied with the plane for the wings but put CF strip in the lower wing. I put brace wires on the wings. The fuselage struts for the top wing have a wire running from front top to bottom rear that is removeable at the bottom rear. Front strut is glued so it don't move and when the wire is removed the rear strut can swing forward for wing to be removed. I used pull-pull controls to help keep the tail light. I have brace wire on the tail. I made new landing gear using bamboo skewers. Made new wheels using foam. I use 6 1800ma nimh batteries mounted under the cowl an upsidedown U over a 2410-09Y brushless. The batteries put the CG where it needs to be without adding extra weight. My cowl got tore on a bad landing(normal landing for me). I found the bottom of a large size bottle of Lysol disinfecting wipes almost a perfect fit. It is soft enough that the mold marks can be pushed out from the inside and anything on the outside can be sanded off. It is the white cowl in my picture.

scalercflyer 08-19-2008 11:53 PM

Wattage Camel
Boys, I think you'll find plenty of info about this plane on e-zone and wattflyer. I modified mine with a little more dihedral in the wings based on a thread I read. I under stand it flies slowly. :) Just what this aging fighter pilot needs. ;) BTW I threw the stock motor and gearbox in my juke bin and used a cheapy BL motor. Glad I did. :D Now where is Steve's RED DRI.......? :eek: Martin

scalercflyer 08-19-2008 11:58 PM

Red and White Camel
Wow Cookie!:D You JUST HAD TO PAINT that Camel red didn't you???!!!! :eek::eek: Now I can die.:eek::rolleyes: I've seen it all! :rolleyes: Martin

Cookie 08-20-2008 01:15 AM

Martin, of course it had to be red. It's a German biplane now, so it has to be red or have some red in it :Q. Locally, we call it the Camel Fokker Morph ;). Now my tri-plane is black and white, because I'm getting tired of red too. But it's been a real PITA to try to get everything to hook up correctly. That's what I get for taking on an old Comet SuperStars model. They just were not designed for radio control. I think I'm spoiled by the ARF's.:red:

degreen60 08-20-2008 01:51 AM

It will have to be my Camel that chases that red Camel with the black crosses. My SE5A is being repaired. I ground looped it on take off(hand launch take off). I don't think I launched it with enough speed.

Percyflyer 08-20-2008 02:34 AM

steve's RED DR1 is ready and willing.

BTW, if it doiesn't get rained out, I am supposed to get to fly the new GP Spad this weekend at the Hoosier Dawn Patrol.


Cookie 08-20-2008 02:48 AM

degreen 60, it must be going around because I had the same problem with my little HET P-40 this morning. Three hand launch attempts and I finally got it right on the fourth try.

dbcisco 08-20-2008 03:23 AM

From what I recall, in WWI the Germans painted their planes all sorts of different coloor schemes. Did the Allies have the same tempra-ment?

Cookie 08-20-2008 03:33 AM

The Germans actually painted their planes in color schemes based on the squadron that they were in. Some painted the tail yellow so that if they saw another plane with a yellow tail they knew it was part of their squadron. If there was a mix of squadrons in the air, they could tell who belonged to their squadron. They didn't have radios, so they relied on color to differentiate. I don't recall seeing many photos of allied planes that had "fancy" paint work on them.

dbcisco 08-20-2008 11:10 AM

Started on the Sopwith.
Cutting the slots for the control rods and slipped with the hot knife:mad:.
Glad that foam is easy to fill in. It needed a paint job any way.

WWI Ace 08-20-2008 11:45 PM

You guys don't even want my red DR1 to come out!!! Steve

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