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wattman 08-20-2011 09:20 PM

Nice , its proably the only one like it also , and video also , yeah !

HobbyJumper 08-22-2011 02:03 AM

Smart-lookin!


Originally Posted by Gunnar155 (Post 829547)
Well thought id post my finally fully completed Aerodrome RC Fokker DVII with the pilot, guns winscreen, repaired wingtip landing gear wood fairings etc. The color scheme is of warner junck of jasta 8 :D it was flown around 10 times, its a great flying plane!!:D


Gunnar155 08-22-2011 02:14 AM


Originally Posted by HobbyJumper (Post 830122)
Smart-lookin!

Thanks!

WWI Ace 08-24-2011 03:24 AM

Good looking D7 Gunnar! I have that kit in my collection.

TM4197 08-24-2011 03:30 AM

Sweet looking SE5 !!! Great job on it! Gotta throw a nice long exhaust pipe down her side !!

Gunnar155 08-24-2011 03:37 AM


Originally Posted by WWI Ace (Post 830522)
Good looking D7 Gunnar! I have that kit in my collection.

Thanks! its a great kit!

degreen60 08-25-2011 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 830525)
Sweet looking SE5 !!! Great job on it! Gotta throw a nice long exhaust pipe down her side !!

Your wish is my command. I also added a pilot. Video as soon as the wind drops.

wattman 08-25-2011 03:04 PM

Thats a very nice change that you have done to the SE5 , really different , and yes the winds have been too much , the past couple of days here also .

degreen60 08-25-2011 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by wattman (Post 830775)
Thats a very nice change that you have done to the SE5 , really different , and yes the winds have been too much , the past couple of days here also .

I glued the paper on this plane with 3M Supper 77 and I think it has added a lot of strenght to the foam. On the Nieuport 17 I used sticker paper on the fuselage and painted the wing. The wing on it was damaged in shippment and I have CF reinforceing it. I think I will now glue paper on the wing hoping it will make the wings as stiff as the ones on the SE5A. I do not think the sticker paper adds as much strenght as the glued on paper.

wattman 08-25-2011 05:23 PM

3M Supper 77
Had never used any , did you spray around the edges and then apply the paper , or spray the entire wing and apply ?

What weight paper do you use , and I guess that once the paper touches , ITS GLUED , and there is no moving it afterwards ?

This method sure opens some major changes like what you have done , that would have been some major masking and whatnot to have painted the plane like that . And the german camo fabric would be possible to print on paper and apply also , maybe .
The EFlite Fokker DVII could really be changed .

:)

TM4197 08-25-2011 05:26 PM

I like it...Really a fine job. And your not going to see that in everyones hanger, thats for sure. So the 3M dosnt bother the foam at all I take it. Pilot looks familiar:D!!

TM4197 08-25-2011 05:43 PM

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I mixed elemers glue and water to get a workable base and applied this paper, it gives enough time to move it, but...it has to dry. I think it was tacked in about 30 mins.

degreen60 08-25-2011 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by wattman (Post 830789)
3M Supper 77
Had never used any , did you spray around the edges and then apply the paper , or spray the entire wing and apply ?

What weight paper do you use , and I guess that once the paper touches , ITS GLUED , and there is no moving it afterwards ?

This method sure opens some major changes like what you have done , that would have been some major masking and whatnot to have painted the plane like that . And the german camo fabric would be possible to print on paper and apply also , maybe .
The EFlite Fokker DVII could really be changed .

:)

I spray the entire area where I want to glue the paper. I lay the paper lightly on and can still lift it if I need to. Once in place press the paper down and done. Where the glue gets on the plane where not needed I just wait. It will finally stop being sticky and makes the area not shinny.

I made german camo for my Albatros but printed with an inkjet. It got so water spotted it no longer looked good so I back dated the plane and painted the wings.

I use bright white 20 lb paper.

I was printing the paper with no overlap. Had to cut the edges very straight and then work to get to match. Now I print with 1cm over lap. Use stick glue to glue the paper together before putting on plane.

I now have 2 planes using printed paper on the fuselage. Most of my planes have stickers I made and glued on. The only part of my SE5A not covered with paper is the under side and motor.

degreen60 08-25-2011 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 830790)
I like it...Really a fine job. And your not going to see that in everyones hanger, thats for sure. So the 3M dosnt bother the foam at all I take it. Pilot looks familiar:D!!

3M does not bother foam and sticks forever once the paper is pressed down.

I keep finding better ways to make the pilots. This time I vacuum formed several. I clamped both halves together. Filled with expanding foam(needed it else where so did not waste the rest of the can). After the foam set I split the haves apart then trimmed to fit together better and glued back together with Gorille glue. The differance from your pilot, mine is not hexed, at least I hope not. LOL

scalercflyer 08-25-2011 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 830797)
3M does not bother foam and sticks forever once the paper is pressed down.

I keep finding better ways to make the pilots. This time I vacuum formed several. I clamped both halves together. Filled with expanding foam(needed it else where so did not waste the rest of the can). After the foam set I split the haves apart then trimmed to fit together better and glued back together with Gorille glue. The differance from your pilot, mine is not hexed, at least I hope not. LOL

You sly Devil! :eek::D;) BTW don't tell us, show us (I might steal.... err.. borrow your idea) :D Marty

TM4197 08-25-2011 07:50 PM

Might try this method on my next project. Looks really good...

If you noticed in my Nieuport maiden flight, I didnt have your pilot in there. LOL....

Iam holding the last pilot for a DR-1 e-flite series that I hope they are making....I can already probably say, it would be red. So, gonna have to come up with a different sceme. [popcorn]

degreen60 08-25-2011 11:12 PM

I hope Eflite makes a Spad.

TM4197 08-25-2011 11:18 PM

I'll take one of those too!!!!:tc:

degreen60 08-26-2011 04:40 PM

Here is the SE5a night fighter flying.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLh89V0ml6s[/media]

HobbyJumper 08-26-2011 07:22 PM

Great video.

My kind of landing.

wattman 08-26-2011 08:47 PM

That plane really looks good Don , really nice , thanks for shareing the joy .
I do not understand how this paint scheme helped at night , but I suppose it did .

[popcorn]

degreen60 08-26-2011 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by HobbyJumper (Post 830958)
Great video.

My kind of landing.

Axle up so plane is easy to pickup.

Glacier Girl 08-27-2011 02:50 AM

3M's 777 will eat foam if you apply it too heavy. For a foamie just a light dusting should do you well.

Degreen60 and anyone else using an ink jet to print things like decals.
Give the finished product a couple of light coats of clear paint. Will prevent any water damage.

TM4197 08-27-2011 09:26 PM

Great flying! Sweet plane and a good video shoot!!

The nightfighters were painted those colors and pattern so the ground gunners and observers could easliy identify the planes flying over the country side. So, they did not mistake them for enemy planes. Supposedly, all other fighters were "grounded" for night flights unless being attacked. I was thinking maybe using big letters under the wings saying...."us" "them".:D

I tested the 3m77 spray glue on some scrape foam, G-girl is correct, when I shot it thick, it did eat just alittle on the foam. This glue is so tacky, it dosnt need much anyway! I stuck different thickness paper on the foam, and it stuck very well!! ALL good ideas Don!! I just shot some clearcoat (light spray) on the paper/foam..got it outside in the rain, we'll see what happens.[popcorn]

degreen60 08-27-2011 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 831206)
Great flying! Sweet plane and a good video shoot!!

The nightfighters were painted those colors and pattern so the ground gunners and observers could easliy identify the planes flying over the country side. So, they did not mistake them for enemy planes. Supposedly, all other fighters were "grounded" for night flights unless being attacked. I was thinking maybe using big letters under the wings saying...."us" "them".:D

I tested the 3m77 spray glue on some scrape foam, G-girl is correct, when I shot it thick, it did eat just alittle on the foam. This glue is so tacky, it dosnt need much anyway! I stuck different thickness paper on the foam, and it stuck very well!! ALL good ideas Don!! I just shot some clearcoat (light spray) on the paper/foam..got it outside in the rain, we'll see what happens.[popcorn]

I wonder if the night fighters were painted the checked underside too. I made mine linen color.

There is several threads about using 3M 77 and paper to make foam planes. Some think it is the propellent not the glue that melts the foam. I spray from about 3 to 4 feet away from the foam and haven't melted any foam yet.

When I printed with an inkjet I over sprayed with clearcoat but still got water spots. I like my laser printer much better.


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