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dbcisco 10-01-2009 06:08 PM

Dress him up in a pin-stripe suit. A loan shark!

scalercflyer 10-02-2009 01:52 AM

Excellent, excellent job D!!!! I too concur leave it silver. Hey Guys, what kinda fish has teeth that big? marty

dbcisco 10-02-2009 01:57 AM

African Tiger Fish

WWI Ace 10-02-2009 02:58 AM

I would leave it silver for orientation purposes. Are we gonna start the fish jokes again??!! Steve

degreen60 10-02-2009 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 648168)
Hey Guys, what kinda fish has teeth that big? marty

A Nieuport fish.

7car7 10-02-2009 08:41 PM

Restoring original planes
 
So, last night me and the kids went to Seattle's Museum of Flight. I've been there many times over the years, and it's awesome. But last night was the first time we've gone to the somewhat new section called "Personal Courage Wing". It was absolutely amazing. Several WWI and WWII planes in there.

Of the WWI variety, there are a few that are the real deal - not remakes.

There's really only one that is in original shape - a Caproni. (Go to the end of this post to see my whole point)
http://www.museumofflight.org/files/..._PCW-06_P1.jpg

There is an Aviatik that is real, but VERY restored...
http://www.museumofflight.org/files/...erg)-DI_P1.jpg

And of course, several VERY nice replicas - not the silly 3/4 scale jobs with inapropriate engines...
http://www.museumofflight.org/files/...DXIII_1_P1.jpg

http://www.museumofflight.org/files/..._PCW-03_P1.jpg

http://www.museumofflight.org/files/...okkerDVIII.jpg

SO, I'm curious as to others opinions here. Do you feel the real planes should be "restored" beyond the minimum it takes to keep them in one piece? Or would you like to see them kept as the Caproni?

My opinion is that they should not be restored - at all - other than fixes to make them not fall appart. Seems to me there is nothing distinguishing the restored real ones from the replicas (good replicas).

dbcisco 10-02-2009 09:03 PM

This debate has been going on for over a century. It is not only museum pieces but antiques as well. Concensus has bounced between the two every couple decades. The investigative side says that restoration destroys evidence while un-restored doesn't draw the public thus funding is reduced. Antique dealers currently are on the "restored is bad" kick but a couple decades ago it was "un-restored is junk".
The reality is that once it is restored you can't go back, while un-restored can be restored at any time. Even simple cleaning destroys information like DNA from hair of pilots and crew.

degreen60 10-02-2009 09:20 PM

I hate to see "over restored". I have see old cars that look better than when new at the factory. I restored my old car(1933 MG-J2) just enough I was not afaird to let people touch it and take it for drives. I always let kids set in the car at shows.

degreen60 10-03-2009 04:04 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Capt Gwynne is now in the cockpit.

dbcisco 10-03-2009 04:46 AM

You need an Aquaman action figure in that.
Capt. Gwynne might drown!:D

Ron 10-07-2009 08:11 AM

No he won't drown, he's Gwynne to learn to swim

degreen60 10-07-2009 11:50 AM

Maybe I should give him a snorkel so he can dive.

7car7 10-12-2009 09:09 PM

So, I got the chance to see the Red Baron movie - the European one that came out not long ago.
It was pretty dang cool. The story was ok, room for improvement perhaps, but certainly watchable for a typical WWI fan.
There were a few gaps in the story that could have been filled in, like when the baron got injured in the head, there was NO fight scene preceding the injury. It went from one scene to the next, and that was showing the plane come over a farm, and coming down hard, with him looking just about dead. I supose they didn't want to make up a story that they perhaps didn't know, but still seemed empty there.

The planes were amazing. Loved the on the ground shots. All those Albatri in their colors were very cool.
Couple times they'd show the pilot from the "prop's" perspective, and sometimes the rockers on the engine were moving, other times they were still (oops).

No mention of the Fokker DVII that he was involved with, and really not much shown of anything prior to the Albatros DIII or DV.

Some very nice footage of SE5a's and Camels, and it seemed that the producers didn't necesarily try to paint the picture that any one plane was better than another.

I'm not a huge historian by any means, and certainly others know WAY more than I do, but for a novice like me, it was great.

All in all, I really enjoyed it. Only 2 scenes that I'd want to "fast forward" thru for my 2 kids. But even those scenes were not too bad. (brothel, and "love" scene. No nudity)

Looking forward to seeing it again. I'm sure I'll watch this one more than once.

Percyflyer 10-12-2009 11:59 PM

I haven't been able to find a copy. Where did you get a copy?

thanks
steve

scalercflyer 10-13-2009 12:45 AM

See your PM Steve. Marty

7car7 10-20-2009 06:46 PM

WWI game coming
 
I'm not a gamer, but a buddy is.

http://www2.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html

From the makers of Aces High.

http://www2.hitechcreations.com/news...s/dr1/dr11.jpg

IndyJones 10-21-2009 02:41 AM

WWI game...
 
I am an old "veteran" from the Red Baron 3D game from Dynamix/Sierra years ago... we had many online "wars" that lasted a few months at a time called "Great Wars". Here's the newest WWI flight sim that has a lot of folks attention at the moment:
http://riseofflight.com/

http://riseofflight.com/About.aspx?item=Sreenshots

Take care.

dbcisco 10-21-2009 03:15 AM

The minimum video requirements for "rise of flight" is a $100 8800GT. Think I'll buy an Eflite Nieuport instead.

IndyJones 10-21-2009 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by dbcisco (Post 654041)
The minimum video requirements for "rise of flight" is a $100 8800GT. Think I'll buy an Eflite Nieuport instead.

I have the Eflite N17 too... it's also nice to be able to crash all that I want... and not lose time/money. :)
I use a BFG Nvidia GTX 285 ($300 video card). You can fly with all the graphics maxed out.

dbcisco 10-21-2009 03:54 AM

Yeah, If I had the system needed I would check out the demo. My days of spending all my mad money on computers is over.
Now I blow it on airplanes.:D

scalercflyer 10-21-2009 04:01 AM

RB game
 
Hey Indy, I still have my RB 3D game! :) Just need to get a joystick to play again. :cool: The only problem is, it cuts into my building time. ;):eek::D Marty

scalercflyer 10-21-2009 04:08 AM

Money on planes
 
Yeah, db you hit the nail on the head! I spend all of my spare change on the hobby. BTW Guys, who's building what? It seems like the building season is upon us. I have this in mind..... the 55% version. Of course it will only have ailerons on the top wing!! What do you Guys think? Marty

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425387

dbcisco 10-21-2009 04:23 AM

I have RB3D installed and am using my TX and USB cable. You don't need a "real" joystick at all.

dbcisco 10-21-2009 04:26 AM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 654071)
Yeah, db you hit the nail on the head! I spend all of my spare change on the hobby. BTW Guys, who's building what? It seems like the building season is upon us. I have this in mind..... the 55% version. Of course it will only have airlerons on the top wing!! What do you Guys think? Marty

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425387

That is the plan I used for my 36"WS Black Dr.1 Foamie.

degreen60 10-21-2009 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by dbcisco (Post 654041)
The minimum video requirements for "rise of flight" is a $100 8800GT. Think I'll buy an Eflite Nieuport instead.

It will also get you off the couch and outdoors. I have 2 of the Eflite Nieuport and really like them for relaxing flying. I am thinking about trying to trade one of them(not my flying fish) to someone that has an extra Eflite SE5a.


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