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Franny 06-14-2007 10:23 PM

and a couple more..
 
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I don't know who's these are, but these are totally schweet!

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das ace 06-15-2007 06:17 AM

zeppelin building
 

Originally Posted by Biplane Murphy (Post 210962)
das ace....please post build pics. I think we would all like to see a zepplin
being built!! I know I would!!

Murph

Thanks Ron......I use trim solvent alot, but if you use too much it'll eat into the color part of the film!!

i've run into a bump :< my wire a ordered came to day but it was rusted :sad: which shouldn't be a problem i'll just buy wire from ace hardware next time, so far so good.... any one got any ideas on what gas to fill it with hydrogen maybe?

BradT 06-15-2007 07:12 AM

NOT hydrogen!!! That's what burned in the Hindenburg. Hydrogen is very flammable, and therefore dangerous to use in this kind of application. Helium is not flammable, and is readily available from party supply outlets, as that's what they use to inflate the latex balloons. That would make it your lift gas of choice, I think.
Brad.

Biplane Murphy 06-15-2007 07:16 AM

zepplin
 
das ace....Hydrogen would be perfect if you want to re-create the last flight of the Hindenberg!!:):$:<:D Helium may be safer.

Murph

P.S. Please don't forget to post pics of your build.

brnyrbbl 06-15-2007 07:34 AM

Hydrogen?? That reminds me of a story a guy told me about one of his friends. The guy would take his boat out on the lake and fill those punching bag balloons (the big ones with the rubber band you hold on to) with hydrogen, tie them closed and put a piece of toilet paper in the opening up to the knot. He would light the paper and punch the balloon and watch as it drifted away then EXPLODED sending ripples across the water. One day the wind changed direction shortly after he hit the balloon and it came back toward him. He ran to the engine controls and tried to get away but the balloon exploded and burned most of his hair and he was semi-deaf for a couple weeks.. Hahahaaa.. what a lame arse! So I agree, stick with helium;-)

Biplane Murphy 06-15-2007 08:14 AM

the last post reminds me of my 4th grade teacher. He would take a big wine bottle fill it with galvanized nails (I think) and Hydrochloric acid (I Think) put a balloon over bottle opening.It would fill with hydrogen. Tied the knot attach string. let it float to up to the ceiling and light string............BOOM!!
Ceiling had nice black marks.........HA HA HA.
This was in the '70s. Don't think it would be allowed these days!!

Murph

das ace 06-15-2007 10:56 AM

hydrogen and thermite based paint that would be a great combination... not!!! i just dowloaded plans for zeppelin from http://arizonamodels.com
they built the model fighter zeppelin from flyboys
but one problem the plans are 1/16 scale and all my planes are 1/4 any way to convert the measurements? oh and murph i think i'll take photos of it as i'm building it and when i'mm done and post them all at the same time

das ace 06-15-2007 10:57 AM

forgot this in my post how do you get signitures

brnyrbbl 06-15-2007 05:33 PM

To convert from 1/16 to 1/4, you would multiply all measuremnts by 4. So if it was 1cm @ 1/16, it would be 4cm @ 1/4 scale.

To edit/add a signature, look up at the top ^^. Click on User CP and then look on the left side for "edit signature".

das ace 06-15-2007 06:55 PM

now i shall tell the tragic history of my planes, i have three camels and four DR.1's. i would have three E-III 5 tiger moths and one gotha but tragicly all of the planes i just listed are down and out the first E-III was being flown when i swooped down low and my friend (who apparently enjoy destroying my hard work) was hiding a bush with a lighter and a can of OFF bye-bye eindecker #1 the others wer destroyed when my friend figured out how to modify his RC sherman tank to fire .22 bullets and when this was over with i stopped using gas

brnyrbbl 06-15-2007 07:15 PM

OMG! that is toooo funny.. well not for you I'm sure.

das ace 06-15-2007 07:23 PM

well... when he first shot down a tiger moth he missed and blew the head of the G.I. joe i had in the cockpit then he hit the engine i had gas powered planes then so guess what? BOOOOOM!!!!!!

das ace 06-15-2007 07:28 PM

hey i got a signature

das ace 06-15-2007 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by dicknadine (Post 210406)
whats the best place to get the Maltese Cross decals for my 43" D7's ? dick

http://towerhobbies.com has some

brnyrbbl 06-15-2007 07:43 PM

Nice signature Das Ace!

das ace 06-15-2007 07:50 PM

thx :>

CarreraGTSCS 06-15-2007 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by das ace (Post 212023)
now i shall tell the tragic history of my planes, i have three camels and four DR.1's. i would have three E-III 5 tiger moths and one gotha but tragicly all of the planes i just listed are down and out the first E-III was being flown when i swooped down low and my friend (who apparently enjoy destroying my hard work) was hiding a bush with a lighter and a can of OFF bye-bye eindecker #1 the others wer destroyed when my friend figured out how to modify his RC sherman tank to fire .22 bullets and when this was over with i stopped using gas


You need a new friend. This one sounds like a d**k and dangerous too. Have any pictures of the flaming mess?

das ace 06-15-2007 09:48 PM

well, we just mess around. the gotha i mentioned wasn't shot down i landed it next to his tank (with an m80 in the cockpit) and blew it up bye bye sherman. now the air field has a rule no ground-to-air or air-to-ground combat the same for water combat on the pond so, my fokkers are safe to hunt his nieuports my tigers can kill his shermans without fear of air rade and my u-boats can kill his battleships. oh, i forgot to tell you we figured out how to make the guns shoot airsoft BB's and we figured out how to sequence the propeller to fire with out blowing off the propeller and im trying to fire .22 bullets. (lucky for us its a private air field) nieuports beware! well with the L-10 zapplin air plans firing .22 bullets might be a problem. no pics sry :<

degreen60 06-16-2007 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by das ace (Post 211899)
hydrogen and thermite based paint that would be a great combination... not!!! i just dowloaded plans for zeppelin from http://arizonamodels.com
they built the model fighter zeppelin from flyboys
but one problem the plans are 1/16 scale and all my planes are 1/4 any way to convert the measurements? oh and murph i think i'll take photos of it as i'm building it and when i'mm done and post them all at the same time

Use a graphics program to enlarge the plans to the size you want. Page print them and tape back together.

Biplane Murphy 06-17-2007 05:19 AM

Decals and a really big tree
 
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Hi dicknadine....Came across an ad for military decals....
Northeast Screen Graphics (413) 525-7465 majordecals.com


Hey guys.......hope you don't do this..........Electric bipe stuck in the very top of a really really tall cyprus tree. Over 100 feet up.:<
Tree is next door at my friend's.
It's not a ww1 plane. It's my GP Ultimate Biplane ep. but I figured I would share anyway. Tallest tree in pic is the culprit.

Murphy

P.S. das ace.....you and your friend are truly maniacs.:)

Kiwi 06-17-2007 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by das ace (Post 212087)
well, we just mess around. the gotha i mentioned wasn't shot down i landed it next to his tank (with an m80 in the cockpit) and blew it up bye bye sherman. now the air field has a rule no ground-to-air or air-to-ground combat the same for water combat on the pond so, my fokkers are safe to hunt his nieuports my tigers can kill his shermans without fear of air rade and my u-boats can kill his battleships. oh, i forgot to tell you we figured out how to make the guns shoot airsoft BB's and we figured out how to sequence the propeller to fire with out blowing off the propeller and im trying to fire .22 bullets. (lucky for us its a private air field) nieuports beware! well with the L-10 zapplin air plans firing .22 bullets might be a problem. no pics sry :<

Sound like you two need to (a) Grow up and (b) learn to stop trying to Bulls**t people!
I'Ve heard more convincing stories from my 7 year old grandson!!

degreen60 06-17-2007 11:59 AM

[quote=Biplane Murphy;212720]Hi dicknadine....Came across an ad for military decals....
Northeast Screen Graphics (413) 525-7465 majordecals.com


Hey guys.......hope you don't do this..........Electric bipe stuck in the very top of a really really tall cyprus tree. Over 100 feet up.:<
Tree is next door at my friend's.
It's not a ww1 plane. It's my GP Ultimate Biplane ep. but I figured I would share anyway. Tallest tree in pic is the culprit.

Murphy

I have a weight on a rope that I throw into trees to shake them to get planes to fall out. Sometimes they come out in pieces but at least I have them back to repair. I have hungry trees at my house too.

Biplane Murphy 06-17-2007 07:44 PM

degreen60............we tried...my neighbor has a log skidder(looks like a massive tonka toy). Tied the cable around the tree and shook it good. no success. Have to wait for professional tree climber, or wind to knock it down. Tree is really tall. in picture look at base on road, there is the log skidder, it looks real small but the wheels are taller than me.

Murph

Biplane Murphy 06-18-2007 06:41 AM

das ace........I was thinking about guns on model airplanes........
I don't think the "AMA" would look kindly upon that!!
Plus....bullets can easily travel 2 miles or more!!
Very dangerous to you and all the innocent people around!!
Also as an occassional hunter(I have 4 bird dogs--Springer spaniels) You never fire a weapon
into the air unless it's a shotgun, and even then you make darn sure of what is around!!!!


Murph

das ace 06-18-2007 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by Kiwi (Post 212784)
Sound like you two need to (a) Grow up and (b) learn to stop trying to Bulls**t people!
I'Ve heard more convincing stories from my 7 year old grandson!!

not .22's steel BB's yes very fun

das ace 06-18-2007 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Biplane Murphy (Post 212720)
Hi dicknadine....Came across an ad for military decals....
Northeast Screen Graphics (413) 525-7465 majordecals.com


Hey guys.......hope you don't do this..........Electric bipe stuck in the very top of a really really tall cyprus tree. Over 100 feet up.:<
Tree is next door at my friend's.
It's not a ww1 plane. It's my GP Ultimate Biplane ep. but I figured I would share anyway. Tallest tree in pic is the culprit.

Murphy

P.S. das ace.....you and your friend are truly maniacs.:)

yes we are destroying planes tanks and boats:)

Kiwi 06-18-2007 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by das ace (Post 213253)
yes we are destroying planes tanks and boats:)

BULLSH*T!!!!

50+AirYears 06-18-2007 11:41 PM

There is a National combat group who have battles using BB guns on model ships. Very strict rules and only compressed air guns. Face shields and hard hats are mandatory near the pond. According to a couple people I know who participate, even at the relatively slow speeds and close ranges, it takes a lot of shots to get a few hits. Having tried to get aerial photographs of other planes in the air, I figure hitting a remote aircraft target from another RC vehicle while both are moving would be even harder.

Also know a couple people who have put blank firing mechanisms on model ships. One RC model of the USS Texas had .38s for the main batteries, and .22 for the secondaries. Blanks only! Builder's attitude towards firing real bullets from a model is anyone even trying it deserves long term free room and board courtesy of the State for criminal stupidity.

He is too lenient!

robinairerc 06-18-2007 11:55 PM

Where do I find that pic? I had a similar experience with a rubber-powered Korda Wakefield, back around 1940 or 41. It was in a really tall tree, although I don't know an exact size. But an uncle of mine climbed the tree to within about 8or 10 ft of it and shook the tree top, and it came down. ( the plane, not my uncle!) In fact, straight down! But it pulled out of its dive---just in time to run into another tree!! Major repair required!!. Lee Robinson

Biplane Murphy 06-19-2007 01:50 AM

tree
 
Robinairerc.........Check post #1300 for pics of a model airplane in the tallest tree ever!!:<

Murphy.

Hey guys........I have been told in Japan they fly around with .22 armed models, and shoot each other down. Suppossed to be on T.V. like a game show. They supposedly have bulletproof domes to hide the pilots, navigators, gunners, etc.. in.

Also Water combat with subs..Battleships etc... all enclosed in bulletproof domes..

I suspect "das ace" is a kid and has seen these programs.:)

I don't believe any parent would permit the wanton destruction of numerous 1/4 scale models (costing a couple thousand dollars each!!).:<

"das ace"........perhaps your stories are as tall as the tree in post #1300..
hehehehehehehehehe:)

Biplane Murphy 06-19-2007 02:28 AM

WW1 planes
 
So...back to the matter at hand.........
Scalercflyer......What are you building these days??? Hows the tripe coming along?

WW1ace......What are you building These days? weren't you guys simultaneously building fokker DVIII's?

Franny....... how's that really nice blue DR1 flyin' these days?

Dicknadine...... did you find scale markings for your two seaters?

Kiwi.....I suspect you have a few more sweeeeeet photos out there in Kiwiland!!

Ron in Canada........What beautiful model are you building now? Have you broken down and gone with Li-poly or Li-ion batts yet?

All you other guys and gals.........What are you building etc...

I'm thinking a 1/4 scale bird with 2-3 wings for this fall/winter build. I think maybe I would like to try a scratch build this time.
Martin...Any ideas for a WW1 bipe or tripe that is super manueverable and fun to fly, perhaps rarely modeled. I have only covered planes with film. Thinking about giving fabric covering a try. My 82 year old mentor is quite good at it!

So guys lets get this great thread back on track....please!!
:):tc::$:Q:p:D:cool:;)

Murph....................

joebugs1 06-19-2007 02:56 AM

finally
 
yes, please
this thread was starting to get quite ridiculous

now, let me get back to my lurking

Kiwi 06-19-2007 05:18 AM

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OK, You've twisted my arm, here are another couple for you.

Biplane Murphy 06-19-2007 05:27 AM

Hooray!!

Kiwi.......I knew you had more photos for us.

Murph....

Forgive my ignorance..........But which planes are these. Is the silver-gray one a Nieport? etc..

So Kiwi.........have you made models of all these planes yet? hehehehehe!!

Kiwi 06-19-2007 06:17 AM

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Murph, those last two were a DH 5 and a Nieuport 17.
Funny we have so many here, we are as far as you possibly get from the skies of France yet here they all are.
Have another Since I took this one it has been repainted in a wartime scheme.

Biplane Murphy 06-19-2007 06:40 AM

Well.......Kiwi.......if you guys are invaded by Papau New Guinea you will be well defended!!! hehehehehe.

So what was that last one? Some kind of scout plane I suppose?

Murph.....

Kiwi 06-19-2007 06:51 AM

Bristol F2B Fighter

Biplane Murphy 06-19-2007 06:58 AM

That one looks very interesting. four ailerons. Lower wing looks lower than fuselage and mounted on struts. Two seater? Round cowl.
Flat sides of Fuselage.

This one might make a great model. How well did they fly?

Where's Martin when we need him?

Murph..........

Spoonwasher 06-19-2007 11:34 AM

Hello Murph,and the rest of the guys, You 2 Franny...just dropped by the thread to see what's up, been on patrol with my SE5 inbetween practices for pylon racing my Delta slimmer..LoL.Attrition is high in this sport, renaming it to "Pile -In racing" as one guy flew right through my plane in a corner. Now that's real Combat ! my SE5 sure is a lot more relaxing and cleaner. Going to build an Endecker for more relaxed flying too. Tripe, maybe this winter with some encouragement from you folks.
And Das Ace...there is "NO SAFE" place to shoot weapons of any kind in ! PERIOD!especially model aircraft.
Don

50+AirYears 06-19-2007 03:40 PM

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Spoonwasher, I agree wholeheartedly. Anybody tries it deserves to be forced to stand in front of the guns for the first test firing. And not with the aiming point below waist level or above hairline. Try with the guns bore sighted in their strike zone. I'd eliminate the head as a possible target zone because anybody who'd try it wouldn't have anything there that could be damaged.

Nice day at our club field Sunday. A beautiful detailed SE-5, with about any access panel and lacing or other surface feature I've ever seen on picture or drawings of the full size, and a fabric covered Fokker D-VII in the blue and white winged sword color scheme, hand painted lozenge patterns on the underside of the wings, including the discontinuity on the seam lines to match pictures of the originals. Also sprung tail skid and the dummy machine guns mounted to pivot up, which on the original allowed the pilot access to the breech mechanisms either for quick reloading or for clearing jams. Both quarter scale. Both beautiful flyers.

I'm trying to attach three photos of some of the WW I jobs were at our last club show. The Hansa has appeared in Model Aviation, and RCSCALEBUILDER.com has a DVD on the ME110 construction available. Both are scratch built, and both fly great.


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