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scalercflyer 07-22-2006 04:20 AM

Which one?
 
All right fellow Fleigers! :) Steve and I are going back and forth about radios. He swears by the Spektrum DX6 and I'm leaning towards the Futaba 6 channel (both have bells and whistles). :D Let me know what you Guys think. What radio system do you prefer? :confused: It's my B Day on Monday :D :D and I have to decide which one to get. Decisions, decisions......... Martin

Walt Thyng 07-22-2006 05:51 AM

I'm really happy with my Polk Tracker III. eight channels, 99 model memory, fully synthesized. works with jsut about any receiver. Just programmed my Dr.1 into it. Hope to fly it in the next day or two.
Walt

Walt Thyng 07-22-2006 05:53 AM

O yeah, it's under $200.00 , too (-:
walt

dicknadine 07-22-2006 05:35 PM

thanks for all the reply's about the best radio system, guess I will have stick with the old fashion models, which still work and spend my cash on more Balsa. dick

Ron 07-22-2006 08:45 PM

Martin:..........I use a JR radio ( 10 SX ) because of the simple programming ...The only trouble I find with the Futaba radios ( computer type ) is that the manual is as thick as the radio...and it's all fine print too ! I had occasion to try the DX6, and although it has the advantage of no frequency clashes with anyone else, the transmitter doesn't feel good to me...that is compared to the 10 SX. Programming isn't that easy ( for me that is) either..Other than that, I think it's probably a very good system, and would likely use it if I already wasn't committed to the JR stuff. The Futaba feels nice too, and if not for the exceedingly thick manuals, I likely would still be flying them.( I started out with Futaba)
I decided a few years back that having one really good radio system was preferable to having a lot of cheaper ones...The 10 SX has 10 model memories, and I find that I only use 6 or 7 at most, one of them a Heli...
everything you wish to do is printed out on a big screen in plain simple English, and if something as far as switches or whatever have been inadvertantly changed since the last time you flew the model you are on, the radio screams at you that something has changed since the last time you used it. I find this one of the most desireable functions..that and the throttle curve function....especially for the scale and pattern type models I fly...once I find a speed that my model works really good at, I set the throttle curve to get that speed on that model at mid stick, and I never have to guess. That being said....I think that the most important thing is to actually hold the radio in your hot little hands and check to see how it " feels " to you...other features aside, if the radio doesn't feel right, it won't help your flying one little bit. One other thing which may just be a co-incidence, is that in my area I seem to have way less radio interference ( glitch problems) with the JR stuff than any other brand....possibly because its positive shift instead of negative shift like Hitec and Futaba. Other than that, if I was " on a budget " so to speak, I'd be picking up and playing with every brand and type in my price range and get the one that felt most comfortable to me never mind the brand...the most expensive may not have the best " feel" for you...in reality I don't think any one brand is better than the others.....just better for you....Do I have you thoroughly confused yet??? :confused: :D

Steve...
pretty good trailer....in about 25 years when the movie gets up here to the Great White North, I'll definitely watch it. I got my new model going this last week, and am planning to go after work tonight to put a few more flights on it...it's a Venus 2 ( nice WW1 model eh?? )
68" span..8 lbs.....and now that the batteries have been run in, it swings a....16X10 prop at 7800 rpm....motor is Eflite 60 Outrunner on 6 or 7 S lithiums...I think I'll stay with the 6S because I don't use it all even in verticals which are unlimited at about 1/2 throttle. :eek: 7S just adds weight that's not needed, and the extra power is absolutely a waste...except if I want to show off some, which isn't often with my flying skills.:o

good luck on the radio selection Martin...............

Ron 07-27-2006 01:38 AM

Martin !! did you buy a radio????

scalercflyer 07-27-2006 01:52 AM

Radio
 
Ron, I'm going to buy the new 7 channel FUTUBA tonight. It's an awesome radio for the price and I get $25.00 off the price right away! Can't beat it. Take a look.....Martin
http://www.towerhobbies.com/products...a/futj69m.html

Ron 07-27-2006 06:05 AM

Martin:.....That is a great price...10 model memory is more than enough too.
I can't keep track of that many, and the boss says even ten models is nine too many :rolleyes: I told her I want one of each kind, then once that's done, I want one in every colour :D .
You will find that if you get one with throttle hold, the safety feature of not inadvertantly starting up the motor if you happen to juggle the transmitter or touch the throttle stick will be a feature you will like, along with the sub trim feature, and so many other nice advantages that you will wonder after a while how on earth you ever got along without them in the first place. That and the fact that you will not have to purchase a new radio for a long time will make you glad you bought it. There is a learning curve in order to maximize all the great little features, but it's well worth the effort.

Man not much building going on here lately, but I have one left to finish this winter. It's not WW1, but it is a very old Boeing Flying Boat...these particular ones were built in Canada at the Boeing plant in Vancouver B.C. and were used for the mail run up and down the British Columbia coast..so it's pretty obscure, and should make a great conversation piece. It's going to be 74" span. powered by either an Astro geared sport 40, or maybe an Eflite 46 outrunner. I have several of their products, and they all perform at least as well as their advertising claims, and in most cases better.
Enjoy your new radio...wishing you many happy hours using it..........Ron

WWI Ace 07-28-2006 01:28 AM

Alright!!! The birthday boy got a new radio!! Congratulations. You'll really like having all the extra bells and whistles. Welcome to the wonderful world of programming. Steve.

scalercflyer 07-28-2006 01:43 AM

Radio
 
Thank you. Thank you very much :) Martin

WWI Ace 07-28-2006 02:31 AM

I've been so busy with family, church, and job lately. I need to get back to work on my planes!!! I guess when it rains it pours! Steve.

WWI Ace 07-28-2006 02:32 AM

Oh yeah, thanks for the Wings Pallette site Martin!!! Still trying to find the time to look at all of it!! Steve.

scalercflyer 07-29-2006 03:49 AM

7 C Futaba Radio
 
Oh, Happy Birthday to me... Happy Birthday to me.... :D :D I love FUTABA radios.... Check it out on Tower Hobbies Boys... Happy Birthday to meeeeeee..... :D :) Martin

WWI Ace 07-29-2006 04:10 AM

How many candles were on that cake Martin? Ha!Ha! Steve.

Walt Thyng 07-29-2006 04:42 AM

By the looks of it candles weren't the issue (-:
WT

scalercflyer 07-30-2006 09:37 PM

Birthday
 
You Guys are just jealous because YOU didn't get the new Futaba 7C computer radio for your birthday!!! :D Ha Ha...... Now I can fly my Katana and my Triplane and my MINIFLASH, etc, etc (10 model memory, yada, yada) and use all those bells and whistles...... :) Don't be jealous Boys, Life is good. Martin

WWI Ace 07-30-2006 10:16 PM

So what!!! My Spektrum DX6 also has 10 model memory. Nah nah na nah nah!!! Steve.

WWI Ace 07-30-2006 10:50 PM

By the way, I have all my little Fokker tripe covered except the elevator, stab, bottom of fuse and bottom of top wing. I left the wing and fuse open so I can run the pull-pull cables and adjust them. Steve.

scalercflyer 07-31-2006 04:03 AM

Little Fokker
 
Steve, tell us how you intend to install/hook up the pull/pull cable system. :confused: What materials, etc. Pics would be great too Pal. :) Martin

WWI Ace 08-09-2006 03:36 AM

Okay guys, I'll quit playing with my new G3 sim and get back to work!!! Steve.

scalercflyer 08-28-2006 12:35 AM

Wake Up!!!!!!
 
What are you guys doing??? :confused: How come we haven't heard from any of you? :confused: :confused: Let's hear the latest. :D Steve tell the Boys about the new SE5a and DVII coming out. :D Martin

Ron 09-03-2006 05:33 PM

Steve:
could you give me some information on your DX6 ? I was thinking to use one as the main radio for my smaller models. Is it easy to operate for one of us old guys? Have you had any interference issues or range issues with it? the reason I am considering it is that we are going to be doing a little travelling in the motorhome during the next hopefully quite a few years, and I was thinking it would be a good idea to not have to be worried about interference etc. when I get to fly at smaller areas.
Have you bought any receivers ? and are they hard to obtain?
AND...goodness what are you building? I guess everyone is out flying instead of spending time here. Soon though the weather will be changing and we'll all be stuck indoors. I see you bought a flight sim too. I have been " playing " with mine too, and noticed it really isn't "just like the real thing"....but it is helpful.....mine on auto zoom loses track of the model sometimes when you are doing big loops, or a split S, or a 1/2 reverse Cuban 8. I haven't had time to find out how to cure this yet, but I'm sure I'll get it figured out and be flying it fairly steady later in the year.

WWI Ace 09-03-2006 09:48 PM

Hey Ron, I've been sidetracked lately but I'm still working on the little Fokker tripe. My 8 year old has been wanting me to build plastic models with him. I am watching him build a 1/72nd scale pirate ship in my airplane workspace. I figure if I can keep him interested in plastic models maybe he'll move to RC models later on. I say I'm "watching" him because I don't help him unless he needs a helpful tip or gets dangerous looking with the hobby knife!! My DX6 is the best radio I've ever owned!!! I have two extra recievers that I bought from Horizon Hobby. Any place that sells JR radio stuff should have extra RX's if you need them. It's not hard to program and even comes with a decal to put on the bottom to remind you of what function is what!!! The short TX antennae makes the radio feel very light and balanced. I have yet to experience any kind of glitch at all!!! Even in my .25 sized triplane that is supposed to be too big for the system, ( I sometimes tend to make my own rules)!! The range is supposed to be 2,000ft and I usually don't fly it very far out anyway as watching a "speck" in the air is no fun. For the price I don't see how you can beat it!!! And those two tiny RX antennaes sure look good inside of the model instead of being a tail behind it!!! The only thing it doesn't have is expo for the rudder but I don't really need that anyway. I think if you get one you'll like it!! It also has 10 model memory which is probably more than you will need while travelling. Steve.

Ron 09-05-2006 06:42 AM

yes the expo on rudder is something I was concerned about.Other than that, I think it will be fine for it's intended use. 2000 ft. is a long way away from you when you're flying. Heavens even my 90 size pattern model doesn't get that far away....150 meters away from the pilot is the accepted distance which is about 500 ft. so at most the model shouldn't be more than 2000 ft away///500 up 500 out.if you use the old square of the hypotenuse thingy to figure it out, the farthest the model could be away is 1120 ft. so this would give about a 1000 ft. margin for error....goodness, even I should be able to keep within that! even on a " bad" day
:eek: When I figureed out the cost of a new JR fm receiver, crystal, and 4 servos, it feels like you get the servos and receiver for normal price, and they throw in the radio for free. A JR 7 channel receiver and crystal is over a hundred dollars and the 4 servos come to 132 dollars
The whole 2.4 gig setup costs 219. this is all Cdn dollars so it may even be cheaper down there, but at this price and from the feed back I'm getting on this rig, I gotta try it. Thanks for the information. keep the young fellow interested in the modeling...soon you likely will have a flying partner. my grand daughter flies with me fairly often, and we have a blast together at the field. she started coming to the field when she was two...now she's 12...soon I guess it will be boys she's interested in, but I sure have enjoyed the last ten years flying with her.

Walt Thyng 09-06-2006 04:10 PM

Well, I finally tried to fly the Dr.1. first takeoff run ended in a flip over due to cross wind. Second attempt went well, but she was climbing like crazy and rolling to one side (can't remember which now). Got the elevator trimmed and then the ailerons. It was clearly tail heavey in spite of being balanced 6-8 degrees nose down. It needed low rate on the elevator and high rate on the aileron. Coordinated turns seemed best. The power dropped out suddenly (I've since cycled the pack and it seems okay). I tried to keep the nose down and make it back to the field. It snapped when I turned final. Fortunately our field is in the middle of a wetland and the "weeds" make a nice soft cushion. No damage.

Second attempt the next day resulted in two aborted take-off runs. Two flips and some minor damage to the plane and a LOT to my ego (-: My asesment is that I was too slow in bringing up the power. Also, I had put the rudder on low rate so I may not have had enough control.

Anyway, she'll fly fine when repaired. I've had a horrible flying season due to health (mine, my wife's and my mother's), work (we started a five million dollar buiding project), heat, a lot of crap with MaxAmps trying to get a pack straightened out (they sent me an 8S2P with no taps, then spent two months arguing with me about what kind of taps I wanted. When I finally got it back there were two weak cells which have now died and they won't rebuild it), a self-destructing Axi (threw magnets) and a melted down Aveox )-: I also did some building for another flier to make some money. I've still got four birds flying (including my avatar Sopwith) and the flying season is getting short, so I'm going to concentrate on flying until the snow flies.

No sobs, just a long update after a long silence.
Walt


martin: plans?

Ron 09-06-2006 04:48 PM

Walt...Sorry to hear the first flights didn't go too well. I don't know if you built it in, but on the DR1 there needs to be 3 to 5 degrees positive incidence on the tail plane. This will help lots even if you have the CG right on. Wings O O O and O on the sub wing.

50+AirYears 09-06-2006 05:29 PM

This thread makes me want to push aside my other projects in the schedule and break out the Top Flite SE-5 kit I got at a garage sale. Everybody I've talked to tells me anything bigger than a glow 45 is too much power and vibration, so a larger electric sounds about perfect.

Main problem, the original owner apparently found the construction beyond his skill level, so I will have to replace a fair number of parts and strip stock, but at least the plans are complete.

I would also have to set aside a rubber powered SE-5 that's in line for next year's SAM competition season.

scalercflyer 09-08-2006 01:19 AM

What's next?
 
Well Guy's I'm itching to start my winter DVIII build with Steve. :) As the flying season ends and the building season starts, I look always look forward to a new project. Perhaps you Guys can tell us about your winter project plans and maybe a little about this seasons flying. BTW Walt, my bad. I still owe you and Steve a set of plans each. Seems I can't remember anything I have to do anymore. :eek: :( Maybe this week.... Oh BTW Boys be sure to see FLYBOYS on September 22. I know Steve and I have been looking forward to the movie. :D It's sure to blow your tail up! Martin

vision 09-08-2006 03:41 AM

Winter? Building season? Don't you guys fly year 'round? :^)

Jerry

scalercflyer 09-08-2006 04:12 AM

flying season
 
I would fly year round too if I lived in Arizona! martin

vision 09-08-2006 04:44 AM

Martin,

That is one reason that I moved here from Illinois 11 years ago...

Jerry

WWI Ace 09-08-2006 07:05 PM

Hey Martin building season is almost here!!! Walt, sorry about the tripe. Keep tryin' and you'll get it to fly!!! Ron, let me know if you decide to get a Spektrum radio. It's the best investment I've made in a long time!!! Martin might not have much time to build this winter because someone is "special" and joined a club that has indoor flying also!!! Steve.

WWI Ace 09-08-2006 07:08 PM

By the way Vision, do you have any other WWI planes besides your Fokker tripe? If so we'd like to see 'em!!! Steve.

vision 09-08-2006 11:00 PM

WWI Ace,

No other WWI birds right now, but I have been looking at the new Hangar 9 Sopwith Camel. Check this out! http://www.hangar-9.com/Products/Def...ProdID=HAN4225

Jerry

WWI Ace 09-09-2006 04:59 AM

Hey guys, check this out and see what you think.
http://www.gennadich.com
Steve.

simibill 09-09-2006 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by WWI Ace (Post 101896)
Hey guys, check this out and see what you think.
http://www.gennadich.com
Steve.

Pretty Impresive model making. I would like to see the game they end up in.

Ron 09-15-2006 08:20 PM

Steve:....I did in fact obtain a Spektrum..........I installed it in my new WW1 model ( Brio 10 ) :D .....I have been a little tied up with the precision flying and a couple of contests lately, but tried it out this AM.....feels not too bad....I just need to make /build in an expo function for the rudder, and I think it could be used for my larger models too.
I like the fact that it's super easy to figure out the programming functions...I can pretty much run it without the manual, except for the part where I wanted dual rates for the rudder, and the throttle hold function. also noticed that the " expo" function will only deaden the center, and won't make it more sensitive. This might seem like a disadvantage, but I have never used reverse expo on any of my models.
I do like the differential option for the ailerons.....It sure makes it easy to setup the ailerons to get rid of either adverse yaw, or help keep rolls from getting that annoying little wiggle that costs points...
Re building...this year I think I'm going to do a British model..either a Camel or a Pup...I haven't decided.... I have 6 models on the wait list, and should get them done over the next few months...I didn't buy any of them...it seems that every time I turned up at a contest or fly in I won another one......I'm not complaining though cause as the " boss" says, it keeps costs down :rolleyes: I sure like the looks of that Hangar 9 Camel...it's tempting...I sold my BIG triplane this fall ..it is 7 years old, and I no longer have the hours to devote to flying it, and storage is becoming an issue, and a fellow made me an offer that was just too good to refuse...he basically said...name your price...so I did.....He almost broke his wrist he handed me the money so fast. I think I'll be staying with the less than 1/3 sized models for a while. They're a lot easier to transport, and I can get more than one in the Jimmy . Gotta get back to work now...who's building what this winter???

WWI Ace 09-16-2006 12:34 AM

I'm glad you're enjoying the Spektrum Ron. I LOVE mine!!! It is probably the best RC investment I've made in a long time!! I know it works in my .25 size triplane. It is really easy to program. There is supposed to be info on www.horizonhobby.com to tell you how to get rudder expo if you haven't already. I don't know what to do next. I still need to wrap up my little triplane. I have a DVII, DR1, DVIII, tripehound, and other assorted planes to work on. I think Martin wants to do a long distance simultanious build on the DVIII's. That's probably what I'll start next when the weather here gets a little cooler. I sent Martin a Airhog Aeroace and he's been flying it in his front yard so he's getting some flight time in! We really don't have any active clubs in my area anymore so I usually either fly alone or with one of my kids. Sometimes my boss and I fly but he doesn't like to get up as early as I do on our days off. That's okay though because alot of times it's really peaceful at dawn with just the hum of an electric outrunner!! I think I'm gonna stick to 1/6th scale and smaller because of storage also. I like that Hangar 9 Camel too but it will cost a small fortune to electrify it!!! Electrifly is making a SE5A ARF and will soon release a Fokker DVII ARF. They are both builtup balsa parkflyers that might be fun for a quick flight fix!!! I really liked your big tripe!! Kinda sad to hear ya let her go!! Steve.

scalercflyer 09-17-2006 04:23 AM

Say the word
 
Steve, just say the word when you want to start on the DVII build. :) I'm itching to do my DVIII. I haven't decided on a camo scheme, but I think I'll definitely do the five color camo (yeah, I know I'm asking for it!). :D I want something unusual so I'll need to do some in depth research first. BTW, if you are even thinking about putting anything red on that DVIII, I'll come down to Texas and beat you till you bleed! :eek: No red DVIIIs ever existed for your information, thank you very much!! Steve, remind me again about what you picked out for the power plant. I need to start thinking about obtaining one in the next few weeks. I assume you will be using LIPOs. Let me know what you have decided too. OF COURSE I shall be using my NEW FUTABA 7C computer radio for the guidance system! You know Boys, the one you Guys are jealous about not picking. :) :D Walt speak to us. What's next? Well gotta get some building done. Martin

WWI Ace 09-17-2006 10:07 PM

I'm not ready to start the DVIII yet Martin. I'm hoping work will slow down after about a month!! But I probably will use my Eflite Power 25 outrunner in it with my Eflite 40amp ESC. I will probably also use two TP1320mah lipos wired parallel for batteries. This setup works great in my Polks DR1 with a APC 12x6 prop (not the slow flyer type). I'm pretty sure the DVIII will be lighter auw than the DR1 is!!! I may just put one of the WWI surviving pilots tripe schemes on it. Kind of a "what if" type of deal. The way I understand it there were so few of these in service that they probably all looked pretty much the same. The war ended their service time too quickly for much personalization. Well better go hang out with the family. Steve


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