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TM4197 08-30-2010 05:41 AM

You making a Lohner B.VII? [popcorn]

dbcisco 08-30-2010 05:50 AM

Rudder looks more like an Allied but the Stabilizer is definitely Axis.
I'm stumped.

TM4197 08-30-2010 06:08 AM

hemmmmm, maybe a Breuet BR.14b2 [popcorn]

dbcisco 08-30-2010 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 746024)
hemmmmm, maybe a Breuet BR.14b2 [popcorn]

Looks like you may have called it.
The stab threw me way the heck off.

degreen60 08-30-2010 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 746024)
hemmmmm, maybe a Breuet BR.14b2 [popcorn]

BINGO. You have guessed it.

TM4197 08-31-2010 08:56 PM

That should be an interesting Aeroplane to finish. Are you going to use the 96th Aero Squadron colors?? or the 9th Night Recon squadron?
It appears these things got their :censor: kicked at the very beginning! Like anything else, once they figured out what they could "really" use them as...they seemd to hang around a little longer! GOOD LUCK!! can't wait to see the finished bird. [popcorn]

TM4197 08-31-2010 10:16 PM

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Thought this was a cool picture of the 14 in flight. I think this was the 96th Aero camo scheme. Gotta love the exhaust on top of the cowling. That must have a nice ring to the ear up front!

degreen60 08-31-2010 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 746456)
That should be an interesting Aeroplane to finish. Are you going to use the 96th Aero Squadron colors?? or the 9th Night Recon squadron?
It appears these things got their :censor: kicked at the very beginning! Like anything else, once they figured out what they could "really" use them as...they seemd to hang around a little longer! GOOD LUCK!! can't wait to see the finished bird. [popcorn]

Hope this answers the question of paint scheme.

degreen60 08-31-2010 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 746472)
Thought this was a cool picture of the 14 in flight. I think this was the 96th Aero camo scheme. Gotta love the exhaust on top of the cowling. That must have a nice ring to the ear up front!

Thanks for the picture. The pictures I used to paint the plane only showed the leading edge of the lower wing and none of the left side of the fuselage. I will use this picture and add more dark brown to the bottom wing and more medium brown to the left side.

TM4197 09-01-2010 02:19 AM

Thats gonna come out good!:D

degreen60 09-01-2010 02:27 AM

Got the ESC for the Sopwith Pup. After a couple of rocky flights I found the trouble and tonigh was a nice slow flight. It wants to turn left and have to hold lots of right rudder. I think I can tighten the flying wire on the left wing so it twists the trailing edge down giving it more lift and hope it fixes the problem.

TM4197 09-02-2010 02:45 AM

Thats funny. The plane did the same thing out of the box, she loved leaning left. I found that the bottom of the rudder where the contol arm was connected needed more beef there. It was actually twisting the rudder instead of turning it. She flew great after that!! WELL....until it was shot down!:eek:

BTW: I was trying to find info on the above picture, #10...does that look like an "E" on the rudder?

degreen60 09-02-2010 03:03 AM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 746825)
Thats funny. The plane did the same thing out of the box, she loved leaning left. I found that the bottom of the rudder where the contol arm was connected needed more beef there. It was actually twisting the rudder instead of turning it. She flew great after that!! WELL....until it was shot down!:eek:

BTW: I was trying to find info on the above picture, #10...does that look like an "E" on the rudder?

I think the sun is shinning through the rudder where it is white and the ribs are making a shadow. I am glad to see in the picture where the squadron strips are on the top wing. I have a picture of the bottom wing showing but the artist made them red, white, and blue. The 96th squardon colors were red and white.

I will check the rudder when I get back home from Shreveport. Had to bring wife for a grandkid fix, she was really getting shaky, LOL.

degreen60 09-08-2010 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 746825)
Thats funny. The plane did the same thing out of the box, she loved leaning left. I found that the bottom of the rudder where the contol arm was connected needed more beef there. It was actually twisting the rudder instead of turning it. She flew great after that!! WELL....until it was shot down!:eek:

I just got back from visiting granddaughter in Shreveport. I checked the rudder and I had all ready put clear shipping tape on the lower part of the rudder and onto the fuselage making the lower part of the rudder stronger also acting as a hinge too. I tighten the flying wire at the back of the left wing causing the trailing edge to drop some. It now flys with very little right trim. It is now a very nice slow flyer. The white trim on the green plane looks great with the morning sun shinning on it. I have to be careful flying low or it will dissapear in the background trees.

wattman 09-08-2010 03:44 PM

prop savers
 
I really do not like prop savers , after the previous o ring broke while setting in its nest ...................I wrestled and thrashed around and finally got a new one in place , and managed to break the rudder and stab , both on my Sopwith Pup , dirty word , ...................and finally when all the damage repaired , test run up to insure all is ok .
Early this morning grabbed the Pup ,, and gear and went to the park , got the plane out of the van , what the ...............prop gone , busted o ring . Did not notice in the pre dawn light when loading up that it was gone .
Well returned home and found the prop at home .
Placed another one on , and did not break anything else , I think .
Of course now the wind has picked up again , flight ops grounded , again .

I have planes with the regulat prop attachments that have been on /in place for 5 years or more ..................I really do not prop savers , period .

TM4197 09-08-2010 04:48 PM

I feel your pain
 
I have had the same situation, thats frustrating for sure. What I do now is slide the adapter down further on the shaft, put a washer on after the prop and place the oring over it. yes, it no longer is a propsaver, but its a fix for me to keep my props on. I break a few more, but...its my way of supporting HeadsupRC. :D

wattman 09-08-2010 06:18 PM

Your saying ...........prop saver , then prop , then a washer , then the o ring , to keep them both on the prop saver ? :confused:

A photo perhaps , thanks .

TM4197 09-08-2010 07:09 PM

Thatís correct...(Minus the washer) not sure why I even stated that. Habits from the threaded shafts I guess. I move the PS back to expose part of the shaft, doesnít take much. I place the prop up to the PS. A little of the shaft is now exposed past the prop. Then put your Oring on. Many times when I have placed the plane on the ground or in the back of my car, the stupid prop flies off the, leaving me with the oring, but goodness only knows where the prop is..."usually" miles away from where I am about to fly. The funny thing is, I have tested this phenomena, and the prop just hangs there off the PS, but still connected by the oring. I think it has something to do with missing sock theory. ...when youíre not there and have eyes on it...it does its own thing.

degreen60 09-08-2010 07:25 PM

I only have prop saver on my 2 planes that do not have landing gear(my dragon and flying pizza). On them I need the prop saver to keep the prop from braking when it hits the ground. I do not use O rings, I use little hair brats(?). I do not have the props held on tight either, I let the props slip back and forth with the brats taking the force of turning the prop. All the rest of my planes either have a threaded motor shaft or I have made a threaded shaft to attach to the motor shaft. You can make a threaded shaft easy. Get an old CD ROM drive. Most of the bushings for the head slide are 3mm which fits the motors I use. I CA the bushing on the motor shaft then CS a 3mm screw with the head cut off in the bushing.

TM4197 09-08-2010 07:28 PM

I'll try that one!! Wonder if the wife minds me taking the CD drive out of the puter?:eek:

degreen60 09-08-2010 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 748619)
I'll try that one!! Wonder if the wife minds me taking the CD drive out of the puter?:eek:

Tell her you will put it back in the next time she needs it. I would suggest stopping at a computer repair place and see if they will give you some junk drives.

scalercflyer 09-09-2010 05:00 AM

Great Planes Sopwith Pup
 
What do you think Boys? ???? Tower has this airplane for $46.00 and I just got an offer of 20 bucks off of my next $50 order. :cool: Do you Guys think it's worth it? Anyone of you have this plane? If so how does it fly? I'm looking for a new indoor bird and I think this may be the one. :) Opinions please, Boys. Marty

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVWC0&P=7

degreen60 09-09-2010 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 748778)
What do you think Boys? ???? Tower has this airplane for $46.00 and I just got an offer of 20 bucks off of my next $50 order. :cool: Do you Guys think it's worth it? Anyone of you have this plane? If so how does it fly? I'm looking for a new indoor bird and I think this may be the one. :) Opinions please, Boys. Marty

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVWC0&P=7

This is the plane I just rebuilt. It flys about the same as the Eflite 250 planes. I use an AX-2306 brushless on 2S in this plane and my Eflites. I fly them outdoors so do not know how they fly indoors.

TM4197 09-09-2010 10:23 PM

Sopwith pup
 
Buy two of them!! They are great to fly and great looking in the air. I would make one suggestion, tape the length of the wings (under) with shipping tape. Makes it a little more durable outdoors. In-door flights.....fly her right out of the box. The video here was taken in some hefty wind..but she flew well.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XJ7qDAPjdw[/media]

degreen60 09-09-2010 10:53 PM

I did not put shipping tape on mine but I have the brace wires attached where the landing gear attached and pulled tight. The back flying wire is attached below the wing with a small piece of plywood. Makes the wings solid.

wattman 09-10-2010 03:03 AM

My Sopwith Pup always goes with me to the park .
Its my favorite no wind flyer .
Just returned from the park and enjoyed 3 batteries worth of fun .
This plane has been the best for me for low and slow and touch and goes and a lot of fun .
I assembled mine as per the instruction book , and the flying wires are important I belive .
Its been dumb thumbed and injured several times but a little glue and tape and it keeps on flying .
The correct balance point indication being on the cabane struts makes it perfectly clear whats the correct cog .
I really really like my Sopwith Pup .

Other than the XXX prop savers on these little motors , my only other problem has been the several times that the wheel retainer , behind the glued on cover comes OFF and then the wheel comes off , I have 'thought' that I had this fixed a couple of times , .................well this time I soldered a really small washer onto the axle end , after the wheel went on .......and then glued the wheel cover back on again , so maybe this time its fixed for good .

degreen60 09-10-2010 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by wattman (Post 748990)
My Sopwith Pup always goes with me to the park .
Other than the XXX prop savers on these little motors , my only other problem has been the several times that the wheel retainer , behind the glued on cover comes OFF and then the wheel comes off , I have 'thought' that I had this fixed a couple of times , .................well this time I soldered a really small washer onto the axle end , after the wheel went on .......and then glued the wheel cover back on again , so maybe this time its fixed for good .

I had a wheel come off too. I drilled a small hole in plastic from a liter bottle. Used a hole punch to make a retainer with the drilled hole in the middle. Put two of them on the axle. I hope that keeps the wheel on.

TM4197 09-10-2010 05:53 AM

I found that if you wrap a few turns of thread around the axle, and apply a drop of super glue, they stay in place. Then, if you need to take it off, a razor knife can cut it off.

scalercflyer 09-13-2010 07:32 PM

Reference site for WWI aircraft
 
Check out this site Boys! :D Fantastic reference and pictures here. I just added it to my favorites. Look at the original pictures. :cool: Marty

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/

scalercflyer 09-19-2010 05:21 AM

The Pup
 
Here's what I was thinking of doing to it. Look at the picture of the captured Pup with German markings 4th one down on the right side of the photo page. Opinions Boys please. Marty

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/799FC...92662EF2D81CAC#

degreen60 09-19-2010 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 751093)
Here's what I was thinking of doing to it. Look at the picture of the captured Pup with German markings 4th one down on the right side of the photo page. Opinions Boys please. Marty

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/799FC...2662EF2D81CAC#

You do know that Pup was painted RED.

scalercflyer 09-19-2010 01:37 PM

The Pup
 

Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 751099)
You do know that Pup was painted RED.

Looks black and white to me D! :D Marty

degreen60 09-19-2010 03:53 PM

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Progress report on the TM Breguet. All surface controls are installed and working. Needs landing gear and motor installed.

enemyace19 09-19-2010 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 751099)
You do know that Pup was painted RED.

It could of been " red " with envy! lol

dbcisco 09-19-2010 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 751143)
Progress report on the TM Breguet. All surface controls are installed and working. Needs landing gear and motor installed.

Is there anything you can't do?
Very nice!

degreen60 09-19-2010 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by dbcisco (Post 751157)
Is there anything you can't do?
Very nice!

Thanks, but I do not do the real scale planes with all the little details. I try to make them look good when flying.

degreen60 09-19-2010 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by enemyace19 (Post 751155)
It could of been " red " with envy! lol

I am sure the writting on the side of the plane was read.

enemyace19 09-19-2010 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 751143)
Progress report on the TM Breguet. All surface controls are installed and working. Needs landing gear and motor installed.

You do nice work hope to see more of it ...Doug

wattman 09-20-2010 02:15 AM

Thats looking mighty good there , nice work .

scalercflyer 09-20-2010 03:42 AM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 751143)
Progress report on the TM Breguet. All surface controls are installed and working. Needs landing gear and motor installed.


Nice work D! Marty


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