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WWI Ace 04-09-2006 09:59 PM

I think Martin was slamming me earlier about my younger days of bullriding!!! Oh well, just jealous I guess!!! You know how those Yankees are!!!! Steve.

Ron 04-11-2006 07:15 AM

Steve.....Seen that Bull riding stuff in real time....tough game.....it doesn't look the same on TV as when you're right there....not for me...I'll stick with my ponies thanks. Used to do a little team roping, but i'm getting a little old for it..( don't heal as fast as I used to ) .... got the motor mounted in the D V111 this morning, and made up the battery pack this evening....just have to finish the Battery tray and hold down...hook up speed control, and it will be time for test frights......I'm actually starting to get excited....

BradT 04-11-2006 07:38 AM

Boy, you didn't waste any time mounting that motor, Ron! You must be getting anxious, as it's only 1 day since I delivered it, and you were in the middle of tree falling at the time! I took the long way home, via Camp River Rd., Aggassiz, Harrison Hot Springs, and Mission, and Fran really enjoyed the drive. A great Spring day for that kind of outing.

BTW, one of the most busted-up guys I ever met was a half-Apache bull rider I worked with at OK Falls Ranch in about 1960; he was around 20, and had broken almost every bone that one can, and still walk!

Ron 04-11-2006 04:36 PM

Brad.....I had all the pieces cut for the mount already, but didn't have the exact measurement center to center on the shafts. We were correct though in thinking that the motor had to be mounted from the top side. Otherwise the Rotary motor would have had to come out of the cowl, and that WASN"T going to happen :D . Hopefully I'll be able to get it balanced soon, and we'll fly it on the 22nd....There was lots of room for 24 cells in the front end, and I'm going to try that first since I've got a bunch of 8 cell packs with no home. They were originally for the heli, but I've since gone to lithiums on it.

Ron 04-11-2006 04:44 PM

Dick should be back lurkin around here again soon .........his cataract operation was last thursday. I would think he should be back by now?
DICK......how are things going for you?? let us know.

WWI Ace 04-11-2006 07:04 PM

Yeah Ron, I rode for about 11 yrs. About got an eye put out, shattered my left elbow, cracked some ribs, and kissed one between the horns once and busted all my front teeth loose and had to get root canals to keep them!!! I guess not bad for as long as I did it! Team roping just wasn't exciting enough! Other than hanging your thumb in your dally and popping it off! Glad to here how well you're doing on your plane. Steve.

scalercflyer 04-11-2006 07:27 PM

Steve RU home? I need to chat. Guys here is a nice website that talks about POLYSPAN. Well worth reading. Martin

max-nix 04-13-2006 02:07 AM

This address works better for Poltspan articles.

scalercflyer 04-13-2006 10:14 AM

Thanks Max! You are right! Sure works better than the one I listed. Not sure what happened when I copied the website address. :confused: Max would you be so kind as to tell us more about yourself? :) I see you were an B 29 A&P mechanic (I'm a former full time Auto Technician myself). I'll bet you have some stories to tell. Of course I understand if you chose not to. Also WELCOME to our little thread! :) I happen to think it's the best one. :D Martin

Ron 04-13-2006 04:37 PM

welcome aboard Max. Hope you enjoy participating in this forum with the rest of us AOB's :-)....hope to see you in here lots

Ron 04-13-2006 04:52 PM

Forgot to mention....I finished installing the motor and flight batteries in the EV last night. Yippee...it balances right on the designers suggested C of G......in fact it's just a little nose heavy. Boy I hope he knew what he was doing when he drew this thing up :-) Just have to plug in the receiver, and install the receiver battery, bolt the prop on, and I can test fly it. then if it goes ok, I can carve a prop, do the prop mount plate, and then ...........................Brad....more ointment.

scalercflyer 04-13-2006 07:39 PM

Maiden test flight
Well Ron, I don't know about you but everytime I go to maiden a new aircraft, my eyes water, my knees and my hands shake! :eek: Sure am anxious to hear about the flight. Ron, just remember when you are inverted, up is down and down is up and you will be OK!! ;) Next to the DRI, the DVIII/EV is my favorite German aircraft. I like the simplicity of the design, ease of construction, etc. :cool: Before you fly her, how about some pics (PLEASE) for your Buddies here in the States? :) BTW, the inverted flying sentence is good advice for you Texican Rebels types... Oh and contrary to common belief, the South will not rise again (you lost!)! Put that in your pipe and smoke it Steve!! Martin

Ron 04-14-2006 12:20 AM

this one won't be inverted....at least not on purpose........
I kinda like the EV too it just LOOKS tough. Of course the round cowl didn't have anything at all to do with my choosing to build it again...now I can officially retire the little one :-)

Martin....how about a couple obscure Fokkers?? I really like the D V11, but since Brad has one already, and it doesn't have a round cowl, ........I once saw a picture of a Fokker twin boom twin engine plane that predated the P 38, but that is from a different era altogether, so wouldn't exactly be my first pick. I'm thinking to kind of keep it in numerical order...DR1...D V1.. D V11 ( Brad's).....D V111.....
maybe we can find like a D11, or a D 1V, or possibly a DV...or did they ever build a D1?? one other pre-requisite....can't be totally..rrrrrrrrrrrreddddd either. hopefully one with all the tiny little coloured hexagons on it...I just love doing that scheme. I must have a screw loose or something, but I really enjoy the painting part. I already have a built up D V111 wing, so If I could use it on something else, that would be really neat...look at all the time I'd save on the build. ...any Ideas?? Far as the maiden frights go, I treat the maiden just like any other flight...it's just the first one. of hopefully many more to come. I used to get really sweaty and shaky, but that takes too much energy, and since I'm basically lazy, I don't bother any more. hopefully I'll get it finished up for Sunday or Monday evening, and yes there will be some pictures for you.

WWI Ace 04-14-2006 12:27 AM

You guys and your Skittles candies paint schemes!!! Ron, good luck on your maiden. You've been flying so long that maidens probably don't bug you anymore! Martin, I'm not ACTUALLY from the South so much as from The National Republic Of Texas. Steve.

scalercflyer 04-14-2006 12:34 AM

Ron here's a DV.. more pics for you to come.. martin

PS, of course you could always build this if you get bored.....

scalercflyer 04-14-2006 12:39 AM

Fokker DII
Peter Rake had a plan for the Fokker DII in F.S.M. March/April 2000, 36" WS, geared 400. Maybe you can get a hold of a back copy of the magazine. I'll check my stock, but I don't think I have a set of plans for it. Martin

Ron 04-14-2006 12:47 AM

Martin...that looks like the three sea bees ARF...they're about 3/4 of an hour down the pike from my place...never been there, but have been threatening to go for some time now. sure would be nice if I could use that EV wing on something.....it's not a scale airfoil...I used the Selig 7055 on it...that's a great one to use on electrics...nice and thin...glides great . I have Pete's plan for that D 11 , but for some reason was never turned on by the plane....we collaborated on a model or two some years ago........my method was much lighter to build, but his was much easier to assemble...and in the end works about as well....I think we each got some good ideas from it, I know I did. He certainly has lots of great plans available...I unfortunately don't have the time or inclination to be as dedicated as he is...guess it has to do with wanting to eat or something, so I have to work. I think he is basically retired, and is doing something he just loves to do. One day God willing, I'll have the opportunity to follow suit.

ENUT 04-14-2006 12:57 AM

Check this plane out.This would make a nice addition to rons Jasta. He needs a Scout/Ground fire protection plane.Hannover CL II.Too bad it's a gas job:( I just bought a set of plans from bob holman for a Hannover CL III Drawn by Dereck Woodward;) .My problem is I want to enlarge them to 70"w.s.from 48".Anyhow check out the link.There is a nice build on the plane over a rcscalebuilder but you need to register to read forum.http://users.adelphia.net/~tmoth4/Ha.../hannover.html


scalercflyer 04-14-2006 02:46 AM

Another type
Ron, how about a nice Albatros DII-DVa? I have a set of 1/4 scale WE Technical plans that I hope to build before I die and grow my own wings! Sure is a nice plane. Or perhaps a Pfalz DIIIa. Notice I haven't mentioned anything about the OTHER side! I still need a little time to come up with something cool and unusual. Not a problem..... should be able to peruse the library either tonight or over the weekend. Von Martin

WWI Ace 04-14-2006 03:07 AM

Enut that is one ugly airplane!!! Would make a great model though. Very few people would know what is was! I have a 1/72nd scale model of that plane. I don't know how you guys find the time to locate all this stuff!!! Steve.

CarreraGTSCS 04-14-2006 04:54 PM

I've posted my 1/4th scale Balsa USA Fokker Dr 1 kit for sale in the sales section of this site. Hate to do it but I'll never get to it because I'm getting ready to start a Fokker D VIII scratchbuild. I've been thinking of ordering the plan set from Model Airplane News that was a construction article in the March 2005 issue. I've been flying a Ben Buckle Fokker D VIII for the last few weeks and have nearly become obsessed with building a 1/4 scale D VIII. Planning to e-power it of course. I have an Astro Cobalt 60 in need of a gear/belt-drive for it as well as 32 GP3300 nimh cells. This should give just enough weight forward of the firewall to balance without lead. I've never yet had to add extra weight to an electric and hope not to.

Ron 04-14-2006 06:48 PM

Mike: I don't think you'll need all that weight up front. mine's got the Astro 40 on a box with 24 cells, and it's actually nose heavy with the batteries on the " firewall" . The 40 swings 24X10 prop at about 30 amps.
Martin....You know, I keep looking at the Albatross, but it isn't a Fokker......that being said, I really like the looks of the " plywood" fuselage. Likely there are some really nice paint schemes for it too.
Lots of time yet...we're not even really deep into the flying season yet for most of North America....except we here in this neck of the woods are blessed with being able to fly 12 months of the year..we basically don't get any measureable snow fall, and the temperatures only get mostly into the mid 40"s for lows all winter. There will be something out there that really will say build me , and I'll be off on another adventure.
ENUT...that is a cool looking model. I like the double horizontal stabs.
Funny some of the ideas they came up with back then to " improve " the airplanes.

CarreraGTSCS 04-14-2006 10:28 PM

Thanks for the input. What ratio box are you using? As luck would have it, I have an Astro 40 as well. It does not have the superbox but rather the standard box. I really like the big old Astro's.

Ron 04-14-2006 10:34 PM

Mike it uses the 3.3 to 1 superbox...this combination has worked well on everything from a 1/3 scale DR1 to a 1/4 scale Spacewalker, and even a
22 1/2 % D V11.... I think this is a very good motor, and I've been known to pick the odd one up at a swap meet if the price is good, which usually, it is.
I'll be posting a couple pics later this evening of the completed power system for the EV.

CarreraGTSCS 04-14-2006 11:09 PM

Ron-- Excellent information. Thanks again. I've had this motor for about 20 years. A real gem. I just checked the number using the free e-calulator at http://brantuas.com/ezcalc/dma1.asp and it shows 54 amps with the noted number of cells, prop size and Superbox ratio. That's with the GP3300's. I'm not really well versed in matters electrical but I think that the GP3300 cells push up the power quite a bit. What cells did you use? As an aside, the calculator indicates 215 oz of in-flight thrust!
Thanks again,

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