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degreen60 07-20-2011 03:20 PM

9am and the temp is already 87F, humitity 70%, no wind, flying area nice and shaddy so I took the Breguet for a flight. It is a nice flyer now that I have all the trim bugs ironed out. When banked it stays banked until leveled by the pilot. When set into level straight flight it is hands off flyer if no wind. Landing are always knee shanking time for me but it just floats in. After landing the pilot told me next time I fly him on a morning like this they are going to shoot at me on the fly bys. LOL All I need now is soap, already wet like I been in shower.

50+AirYears 07-20-2011 09:20 PM

Right now, 93 with 45% humidity, heat index 100. Prediction for tomorro, at least 96, index to 109. Almost starting to make me believe in Global Warming.

TM4197 07-20-2011 10:18 PM

You know its hot when you can thermal the GWS Tiger Moth!:eek:

TM4197 07-22-2011 06:04 PM

Not sure if alot of you have seen this on youtube. I think there are 4 parts to it. For a human narrated ..animated/simulation of WW1 dogfights, some pretty interesting history and explainations of types of manuevers and good descriptions of the planes and aces.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLXsNHVEdZk[/media]

TM4197 07-24-2011 03:50 AM

Maidened my E-flite SE5 today, built it exactly the same as my other one, but for some reason she wants to turn left. Slow or fast power settings make no difference. Alignment is as about as straight as I can make it. Rigging is true, no warping, fin is square. Offset on the motor appears to be the same as my other one. She flies very well, but I'am putting in several clicks of right trim to keep the left wing up. Any ideas?

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE-atx9do08[/media]

degreen60 07-24-2011 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 824915)
Maidened my E-flite SE5 today, built it exactly the same as my other one, but for some reason she wants to turn left. Slow or fast power settings make no difference. Alignment is as about as straight as I can make it. Rigging is true, no warping, fin is square. Offset on the motor appears to be the same as my other one. She flies very well, but I'am putting in several clicks of right trim to keep the left wing up. Any ideas?

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE-atx9do08[/media]

Take it high enough to turn the motor off and glide. Trim for straight flight with motor off. Turn motor on and if it turns left add more offset.

**neons** 07-24-2011 04:32 PM

Also check the balance laterally to see if one side is heavier than the other.
**Neons** Bob

TM4197 07-24-2011 04:34 PM

I will do both...waiting for wind to die down. :eek:

Water Boy 07-24-2011 07:42 PM

Have you checked to make sure you wings are not out of square? Might check that too, if you have not yet. If one is lower or higher it will cause it to turn.

wattman 07-24-2011 08:28 PM

That is a really great video of a EFlite SE5a flying , landing , take offs , nice .
:D

**neons** 07-25-2011 05:34 AM

Found this link in another forum. Interesting models here and they mailorder too. Maybe something of interest to some.
Click_Here

One subscriber said it was EPP foam which is rougher but more impact resistant. I like the molded pilots also.

**Neons** Bob

Water Boy 07-25-2011 08:47 PM

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Well I started a project today. In the works is a 36" ws Sopwith Pup. All foam construction and trying to make it a simple full fuse build. As well as scale as my skills can do. I've been away from building for a little while so the fingers may need some lubing. I'll post some pics as I can. Stay tuned for updates.

TM4197 07-25-2011 09:27 PM

Thanks for all the input everyone. I checked and rechecked everything I could, this bad girl still wants to turn left for the barndoors and found myself triming down as well. Climbed to 3 mistakes high and did the motor off test, trimmed for straight flight, wasn't as bad. Well, I feel stupid now. I re-looked at my Headsup motor mount (which I love) and found that all the down and right offset was gone when I mounted it to the firewall. I do not use the plastic tube that came from factory. Anywho, I placed some washers behind screws in the firewall and got the offset back in place...You don't want to get in my sights now!:rolleyes: Sometimes ya just gotta hang around in the hanger and ask questions, and in my case....DUH!!!!!

Thanks!!

degreen60 07-25-2011 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 825245)
Thanks for all the input everyone. I checked and rechecked everything I could, this bad girl still wants to turn left for the barndoors and found myself triming down as well. Climbed to 3 mistakes high and did the motor off test, trimmed for straight flight, wasn't as bad. Well, I feel stupid now. I re-looked at my Headsup motor mount (which I love) and found that all the down and right offset was gone when I mounted it to the firewall. I do not use the plastic tube that came from factory. Anywho, I placed some washers behind screws in the firewall and got the offset back in place...You don't want to get in my sights now!:rolleyes: Sometimes ya just gotta hang around in the hanger and ask questions, and in my case....DUH!!!!!

Thanks!!

Been there, done that. LOL I have crashed a couple of planes because I would check my controls a couple of times before first flight and still have them backward.

HobbyJumper 07-26-2011 03:46 PM

Great that it's all sorted out, and another good lesson for all of us.

7car7 07-26-2011 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 824587)
Not sure if alot of you have seen this on youtube. I think there are 4 parts to it. For a human narrated ..animated/simulation of WW1 dogfights, some pretty interesting history and explainations of types of manuevers and good descriptions of the planes and aces.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLXsNHVEdZk[/media]


Thanks for posting, that's great.

TM4197 07-27-2011 07:04 AM

Just another SE5a dawn patrol. Gotta say, this plane looks good against the sky! :D

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx2iAlyIrGs[/media]

smooth operator 07-27-2011 07:11 AM

awesome! does e flite make the albatros?

TM4197 07-27-2011 07:26 AM

THANKS!!
Not in the 250 series. I don't think they have done one yet. The round fuse is very hard to design in this series and be flyable. They do however, have a great D-VII.

jensheydel 07-27-2011 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 824587)
Not sure if alot of you have seen this on youtube. I think there are 4 parts to it. For a human narrated ..animated/simulation of WW1 dogfights, some pretty interesting history and explainations of types of manuevers and good descriptions of the planes and aces.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLXsNHVEdZk[/media]

Interesting series to watch however not entirely accurate, Voss' plane is constantly being referred to as experimental, nothing experimental he just hung a Bentley motor on the front much to the dismay of Anthony Fokker who apparently did not feel that was correct. Nice to watch though and the combination of computer graphics and original film material made it worth watching.


Jens

wattman 07-27-2011 04:14 PM

Nice video
You captured the feeling and the joy with your SE5a video TM4197 :)

I had two flights like that EARLY this AM , beat the heat ;)

Tsavah 08-02-2011 02:35 AM

WW1 Foamie Airplane Models
 
I have been purchasing some of the WW1 kits over the last 8 months, but I find I am more interested in bigger fliers. Once the heat wave finally lets loose of this area, I hope to use some FFF and Readi-Board to finish up a Bristol M1c sport scale version I am scratch building. Anyone else doing foam builds in the 40-50 inch wing span range?

wattman 08-02-2011 03:40 AM

I sure hope that you post your build progress and video flights of them please . :)
Maybe it will inspire others to build in the larger size :D

50+AirYears 08-02-2011 05:42 AM

I'm about ready to start repairs on my FlyZone Albatross. Couple weeks ago a big bully of a free lance ERC plane flew right through me. Reduced the plane to about 5 major components. Going to have to make up another V strut from Styrene, I lost one of the originals, the little LiPo battery, and a few small foam bits. Hope when I finish it, I don't add more than a gram or two.

Its been one of the easiest flying of my micros. My Park Zone P-51 and Mosquito can fly in 10 mph winds or maybe a little bit higher, but fly faster and are quicker responding. Almost need exponential on the controls, even on low rate. The Albatros is maybe 6 to 8 max. Also, it flies somewhat slower, and doesn't like to loop or roll. But it just looks so cool, almost seeming to fly at a more prototypical airspeed.

wattman 08-02-2011 03:32 PM

Another fine early morning for patrols , at the crack of dawn :)

For some reason , niether my Sopwith Pup or the Fokker DVII ever encounter the enemy while on patrol :D

My Hobbyzone UM Champ is also a really slow flyer , nice relaxed flyer .
I sure hope the new Flyzone DR-1 will fly as slowly as the Champ , boy would that be perfect :)


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