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pd1 07-14-2012 05:44 PM

Grumman G-22 Gulfhawk II
 
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Here's another Grumman. Al Williams Gulfhawk II

road king 97 07-14-2012 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pd1 (Post 875931)
The Widgeon plan I redid, I also have it enlarged to 50 inch WS.
The Viking is a nice small twin too.

First ya real me in with a couple warbirds then you yank and set the hook with a seaplane plan :eek:.You know i have a weakness for the water flying lmao :DThanks for the great plans Paul .joe

pd1 07-23-2012 01:23 AM

Bootstraps
 
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I wanted to build this one. The plans I did in the past, well they weren't too good, so I redrew the plan.
My dad had this one back in the early 50's. I ended up with it in the early 60's. Time for a new one.

pd1 07-23-2012 03:32 AM

Some WW I planes
 
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I scanned these plans a while ago. Since I've learned how to shrink the files small enough for here, I dug them out.

I couldn't stop until I cleaned them up a bit more.
These could even be made out of depron.

Albatross D 5A
BE 2
SE-5
Fokker D VII
Nieuport 12C
Sopwith Camel

pd1 07-26-2012 12:48 PM

Aamco A Ray
 
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This is a plane from the late 60's. meant to be an aerobatic and aileron trainer.
It is a take off of the original H Ray, was even supposed to replace the H Ray. It didn't. H Ray kept selling well.

I just bought a kit at an auction last week end. Now I have one.
Funny thing is... I was working at the factory and wrote some of the instructions on how to build it. This will be my first time building an A Ray.

Dimeflyer 07-27-2012 09:49 PM

More plans please I am still as hocked on the plans as building the planes !!!!!!!
George

pd1 07-28-2012 03:27 AM

Klemm L25d
 
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Originally Posted by Dimeflyer (Post 877416)
More plans please I am still as hocked on the plans as building the planes !!!!!!!
George

Here's another one.
Klemm L25d made by Krick.

Turner 07-28-2012 04:09 AM

Never seen the Klemm before. Beautiful plane.

pd1 07-28-2012 11:07 AM

Lockheed Litle Dipper
 
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During WW II a designer working at Lockheed designed an airplane for the post war civilian market. That plane was the Little Dipper.

When that market didn't develop, they tried selling the plane to the military as a one man air Calvary plane. they called it the Sky trooper.

The military didn't bite. So the designer, John Thorpe, left Lockheed and re designed the plane. He widened it for twp people and called it the T-11 Sky Scooter.
Then the engine size was increased and the plane became the T-111, a few more changes and it became the T- 211.

Didn't sell well so he went to Piper aircraft and it was redesigned to become the PA-28. Known as the Piper Cherokee, one of the most popular and most produced light planes ever.

Dimeflyer 07-28-2012 11:37 PM

Gee guys thank you all for the plans and your time to post them all !!
George

pd1 07-30-2012 11:46 AM

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Here's a real nice plan for a WW I SE-5A
By Scalemasters.
I redrew the wing and stab and a general clean up too.
The plan has a second sheet loaded with scale details.

pd1 07-30-2012 11:48 AM

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And one for the jet guys.
Berkeley Douglas Skyray.

Dimeflyer 07-30-2012 02:58 PM

Thank you to many PD1 I like that SE5 plan to much !!
George

pd1 08-01-2012 12:27 AM

Aeromaster and Aeromaster Too
 
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Aeromaster. Here's another one from Lou Andrews and AAmco.

Turbojoe 08-01-2012 01:47 AM

Many thanks again for all of your plan posts Paul. While few of us will ever get to many of the builds it sure is great to have this awesome selection to choose from!

Joe

pd1 08-01-2012 01:59 AM

Sportmaster
 
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After the Aeromaster was made, Ernie Huber made a single wing for the Aero fuse. It flew fine. Lou stretched the fuselage and made a new wing and we have the Sportmaster.

I built the first one from production parts, two actually, one for me and one for Lou.

Mooney_Driver 08-01-2012 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by pd1 (Post 873599)
PT-17

Do you happen to have any PT19 plans?

pd1 08-01-2012 10:45 AM

PT 19
 
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Originally Posted by Mooney_Driver (Post 877867)
So you happen to have any PT19 plans?


Small Sterling PT-19 20 inch
Large Sterling PT-19

Jetco/ Hollinger PT-19 72 inch
Comet 10 inch PT 19

Pilot PT-19
Earl Stahl PT-19

Dimeflyer 08-01-2012 10:41 PM

Wow I thought I had all those plans before but now I know I do -Thank you vrry much !!
George

Mooney_Driver 08-02-2012 01:05 AM

PT19 plans
 

Originally Posted by pd1 (Post 877880)
Small Sterling PT-19 20 inch
Large Sterling PT-19

Jetco/ Hollinger PT-19 72 inch
Comet 10 inch PT 19

Pilot PT-19
Earl Stahl PT-19

Those are great. Thank you.

pd1 08-03-2012 10:37 AM

Hawker Tempest
 
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One small addition
Hawker Tempest by Modern Hobbycraft.

I took this from the internet. On closer examination the spars and ribs were crooked.
I redrew the wing, then cleaned up the rest of the plan and hopefully fixed all the other errors.

pd1 08-05-2012 01:52 AM

Warning
 
Just a warning to anyone using Staples to print these plans.
I wanted to build a Bootstraps, so I had a copy made with a one piece wing.
I had Staples print the plan, it looked good. Wing span was correct.

I should have checked further.

I made the fuselage and was making the vertical fin when I placed a template I printed on my printer over the plan. The vertical fin on the plan was 1/2 inch too short. I started checking closer.....

It looks like the aspect ratio wasn't correct. They printed my plan compressed in the vertical direction.
Rib on fuselage side view is half an inch longer than ribs on top view of the wing.

Now what do I do with the fuselage I spent all week on?

Please check your plans for accuracy before you cut wood.

Paul

Dimeflyer 08-05-2012 04:42 PM

Pd1
I have that problem with my own printer here at home so I am used to checking sheet of any plan for any plane I want to build any more !
I had a copy made up of a couple of plans at a print shop a few squars back and they did the same thing with them ,I went back and demanded my money back and
they gave a song and dance about copy rights infringement and I told them to look at the oridginal that I brought with me - It said in fine print on both plans for personal use only not for resail and I told them if they did not do them right for free
I would take them to court in small claims court for fraud so the manager told them
to do it right or go find a nother job .
I told him I would not be back after they did the redo and I had checked them out right there in his office They still had to do one sheet over because it was to big -and I told him to watch what they did on the second re do !
They finaly got it right and I have never been back to that place since !!!!
If I did work like that I would have been out on the street post haist !!
Sory for venting guy but it buggs me when I pay for things and someone messes with my purchased material like that !!!!
You are right about every one needing to check plans when they are copied !
George

Bill G 08-06-2012 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by pd1 (Post 878254)
Just a warning to anyone using Staples to print these plans.
I wanted to build a Bootstraps, so I had a copy made with a one piece wing.
I had Staples print the plan, it looked good. Wing span was correct.

I should have checked further.

I made the fuselage and was making the vertical fin when I placed a template I printed on my printer over the plan. The vertical fin on the plan was 1/2 inch too short. I started checking closer.....

It looks like the aspect ratio wasn't correct. They printed my plan compressed in the vertical direction.
Rib on fuselage side view is half an inch longer than ribs on top view of the wing.

Now what do I do with the fuselage I spent all week on?

Please check your plans for accuracy before you cut wood.

Paul

I've had a number of issues with off-scaling in one direction. Definitely something to check for at the print shop, given the number of issues I've had here at home. There are so many settings and "tricks" that must be used to print files from different programs with various printers properly, and I doubt all the staff at Staples or anywhere else are experts on it.

I've actually taken views and folded them over like a Mad magazine fold out, :Q to "correct" the view. At that point however, you're really scratch building and redrawing. The same goes for padding the heck out of parts. Seriously though, those are not solutions you would be looking for at this point. I can understand the frustration.

road king 97 08-06-2012 09:24 PM

Hey Bill ,Ivan and others who have built from his plans have had the same problem .I take mine to a constuction plan place that i have been doing buissness with for a long time and they tripple check it for me before i pick them up,then i check it before i start cutting out parts . It would be great if all plane plans had a scale on them ,some do some dont but its easyer to check them this way when they do.:D I have noticed alot of builders forgetting it gets sheeting on both sides of a wing also while building it ,most times they have to add wood to the spar to make up for difference .

pd1 08-06-2012 10:39 PM

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Thanks guys, I spent the better part of this morning at Staples trying to get the plan printed correctly. You would be surprised how many times they said it was "right" now.

I also put a scale on the plans one vertical and one horizontal.
I'll be doing it on all my future plans. It made checking the plan a lot easier.

They finally did get it right, once they called the main office and was told how to shut scaling off.

Take a look at the lower right side of this plan.

Paul

Dimeflyer 08-06-2012 11:07 PM

Thank you PD1 I will be going for a devorse in about a month or two so I will be gone
from the computer then .
so all of you be well and stay safe , I had fun here for a few years .
George

piercethesky 08-07-2012 12:57 AM

This thread is awesome!!!! Thank you all for posting these. My wife is going to kill me when I start bringing home the full page plans cluttering up the living room :)

pd1 08-07-2012 03:49 AM

X-Ray
 
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Last of the plans I have from Aamco. The X-Ray.
Nice flying plane.
A bit rare.

Dimeflyer 08-07-2012 11:29 PM

This one definitelly looks like an oldie but a goody !!
I think I may have built one of thies a long timeago for someone else ??
please keep them comeing PD1 I have been given a reprieve by the wife ,
it seems I did something bad and something good so they cancled each other out !
George

pd1 08-08-2012 12:46 AM

I'm trying to get some building done in my spare time.
As I clean up the old plans a bit more, I'll keep posting them.

Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

pd1 09-15-2012 04:56 PM

Fairchild 24
 
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Here's one that would be a nice small electric.
Earl Stahl from Feb., 1940 Model Airplane News, Fairchild 24K
This plan is available from the plan page; http://www.theplanpage.com/esp.htm
I just stitched it together and added the missing bits.

pd1 09-15-2012 05:02 PM

Bi Mini
 
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Here's one I lifted off the internet and stitched it together.
Cute plane

pd1 09-15-2012 05:03 PM

Skampy
 
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Another one I stole off the internet and I redid .
Owen Kampen Skampy.

pd1 09-15-2012 05:07 PM

Envoy
 
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I redrew this one. It had a lot of diagonal lines on the plan.
I didn't scan it, but I did the clean up.

Dimeflyer 09-16-2012 02:04 AM

Very nice PD1
Thank you for the great plans guy !!
George

Bill G 09-16-2012 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pd1 (Post 882363)
Here's one that would be a nice small electric.
Earl Stahl from Feb., 1940 Model Airplane News, Fairchild 24K
This plan is available from the plan page; http://www.theplanpage.com/esp.htm
I just stitched it together and added the missing bits.

I saw your name at outerzone.uk. Good to see you working on these old plans. The Stahl Fairchild 24 would be a great small electric. I was just looking at that plan today. It's similar to what I recently did with the Guillows Fairchild 24, where I sheeted the nose for a more scale look.

pd1 09-16-2012 12:27 PM

Hi Bill,
The Fairchild looks great.

If you want me to take a look at any plans before you build just let me know.
I've found a lot of the plans that are just scanned and stitched aren't square or straight when I checked them.
I'm not an expert, but I am getting better at resurrecting old plans and straightening them out.

Dimeflyer 09-16-2012 02:57 PM

Bill G.
very nice model !
You do great work .
George

BanjoTX 01-31-2013 05:26 PM

pronto
 

Originally Posted by road king 97 (Post 808710)
I flew a contender and a protender ,both were great fun fly contest airplanes . Hey guys iam looking for a tidewater pronto plan if any one has it. joe

Hi J oe,
If ya'r still looking for pronto plans please chk out my thread on RCGroups.





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