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dbcisco 11-18-2009 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 662416)
dbcisco..."I even love to just hold them in my hands and let my mind wander into the past. They give me my childhood back".

You still talking models here right? :Q

'Yeah.... those two...errr too. :D:D:D:D:D

Ron 11-18-2009 06:54 PM

Okay guys..hot stock tip for the week...better top up your shares in solar tex ...I am going to be purchasing a few acres of it soon :D
Just starting to make all the little bits fit together on the DR 1....then a little sanding, fit all the pull pull stuff...fit the motor....and cover.

7car7 11-18-2009 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Ron (Post 662564)
Okay guys..hot stock tip for the week...better top up your shares in solar tex ...I am going to be purchasing a few acres of it soon :D
Just starting to make all the little bits fit together on the DR 1....then a little sanding, fit all the pull pull stuff...fit the motor....and cover.

So if you're like me, that's what, 5-6 months? :D

Ron 11-19-2009 02:45 AM

Maybe after Christmas at latest...I generally get right on it when I'm building...gotta clear the bench for the "next project" :-) I've been exactly month on this so far, and it's about half done...or is that half baked.....all the major parts and pieces are made up....just making little bits and pieces now...like control horns, routing servo wires...the ones to the top wing are hidden in the struts....next time I have it all sorta put together, I'll post a pic.

degreen60 11-19-2009 05:34 AM

I really need help. I have started building another WW1 plane. Here is the build thread. http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/show...733#post662733

Ryan Flyer 11-19-2009 04:15 PM

:)

Ron 11-20-2009 07:33 PM

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Well...you give an old man a box of balsa, and a hand full of hard back razor blades, and look what he does...sorry the picture quality ain't that great, but it's what my camera takes.

7car7 11-20-2009 07:47 PM

Wow, that's big. Where will you store it?! I'm running out of garage ceiling space, and would have NO room for that beast. Looks good!

Ron 11-20-2009 07:55 PM

Store it ????
I intend to use it to give the cat flying lessons :p>

I will find somewhere to put it...my 10X10 room has . ...1/4 sized D V111...1/4 sized tiggie, 1/4 sized Pup, 1/4 sized Cub, and a couple park flyers.....and now it looks like a DR1 needs to be squeezed in there so I have room to build another ::o just may need to sell a park flyer to make a little more room :D

dbcisco 11-20-2009 08:20 PM

Doesn't the four 1/4's make a full size plane in that room? :D:D:D:D

WWI Ace 11-21-2009 01:19 AM

THAT IS SO COOL RON!!! Steve

degreen60 11-21-2009 02:27 AM


Originally Posted by Ron (Post 663255)
Store it ????
I intend to use it to give the cat flying lessons :p>

My cat would want the RC removed and a joy stick added, he wants to be in charge.

Gonzo007 11-21-2009 02:40 AM


Originally Posted by Ron (Post 663250)
Well...you give an old man a box of balsa, and a hand full of hard back razor blades, and look what he does...sorry the picture quality ain't that great, but it's what my camera takes.

:tc: My word that looks great. I can't wait to see in person.

Colin

Ron 11-21-2009 10:22 AM

Just started to do the pull pull on all the control surfaces..rudder, elevators, and ailerons....Colin.I'll give you a turn at the sticks once she's maidened.....you will like it. The Dr1 flies like a Cub on steroids, but it has better ground handling manners than a Cub. degreen.my cat already has it figured out..he was in the shop checking it out this evening...doesn't like the visibility,or rather lack of it over the cowl, but decided he'll live with it because he thinks he'll look cool in it :-) He's already ordered his scarf, helmet and goggles.

degreen60 11-21-2009 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Ron (Post 663470)
my cat already has it figured out..he was in the shop checking it out this evening...doesn't like the visibility,or rather lack of it over the cowl, but decided he'll live with it because he thinks he'll look cool in it :-) He's already ordered his scarf, helmet and goggles.

Like my cat he used your credit card?

Ron 11-22-2009 05:27 AM

Darned cat eh? can't trust em anymore :-)

scalercflyer 11-22-2009 11:27 AM

Wife
 
Darned shame you can't stuff the Wife in there. :eek: It would give her more of an appreciation of model aeronautics don't you think?:eek::D:cool:;) Marty

Ron 11-22-2009 08:25 PM

Nah....... she would tell ME to get stuffed :rolleyes:
Have any of you fellows tried covering with polyester fabric ( dress lining)
and using latex to sorta seal the weave once it's on ? balsa loc to stick it down, and latex to colour it....I know the polyester shrinks well with heat, but I'm not sure how much paint it's gonna take to colour it.....looks like we have an experiment coming up soon ::o I don't think the weave needs to be totally sealed anyway does it? we're not trying to stop those old electrons from soaking into the wood, and we're not worried about fuel soaking in, and since it's NOT a float plane, likely water isn't gonna be an issue..just gotta find some balsa loc..........

dbcisco 11-22-2009 08:59 PM

I know that my polyester suits (yes, I am that old) were very susceptible to burning and melting huge holes just from a tiny ash from a cigarette. Not sure the new polyesters are better with handling heat.

scalercflyer 11-22-2009 10:43 PM

Polyspan
 
Aerodrome RC sells this stuff. It's very similar to dress lining but does a better job especially with lightweight structures. It doesn't shrink much and uses a brush on adhesive. I think you can get it elsewhere on the web though. Here's the link. Marty
http://www.aerodromerc.com/

dbcisco 11-22-2009 11:04 PM

Aerodromerc has: "non woven polyester covering material"
Compare to Monokote: "
Flexible High-Gloss Polyester Film"

note: non-woven = film

Much different from the "woven" polyesters as used in garments.

Polyester is simply various types of "plastic".

All have different properties depending on the polymers used (IE melt and flash points)

dbcisco 11-22-2009 11:07 PM

Experimenting with it can't hurt. Just don't breath the fumes if it melts or burns as the fumes can be poisonous.

Ron 11-23-2009 02:22 AM

Marty...if I am gonna use a film, I'll use either monocote or ultra cote...but I want the weave and the dull finish,,,on my last one I used Monocote, and although it worked ok, it had to be dulled down with dull kote, and it was always getting little scratches in the dull kote and was in constant need of touch up...so that's why the fabric this time...I have used Ploy span before, and find it really susceptible to hangar rash...so I'm being a little fussy this time.....db I remember those polyester suits...and pants...I think there's still some laying around here somewhere....with burn holes from welding in them :-) you haven't lived till you have had a blob of hot polyester melting into your leg ..... The cat has informed me that he wants the seat upholstered with leather...preferably made from dog skin.....and he says the dog we have here would likely "donate" enough to do the job.....when I told him it would likely mean the end of the dog, he just smiled :-)

Biplane Murphy 11-23-2009 03:04 AM

Hi guys,
Finally got my hands on the Red Baron Movie!!!
Watched it last night, and enjoyed it.

dbcisco 11-23-2009 03:16 AM

If you clean the films with a rubbing alcohol wipe down (after applying), the paints and clear coats stick much better.

degreen60 11-23-2009 04:08 AM


Originally Posted by Ron (Post 664063)
The cat has informed me that he wants the seat upholstered with leather...preferably made from dog skin.....and he says the dog we have here would likely "donate" enough to do the job.....when I told him it would likely mean the end of the dog, he just smiled :-)

If you don't have enough dog skin I will donate a couple of my neighbor's dogs. I would make my other neighbor's happy.

scalercflyer 11-23-2009 08:19 AM

Dog skin
 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

Ryan Flyer 11-23-2009 04:17 PM

wow
 

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 663250)
Well...you give an old man a box of balsa, and a hand full of hard back razor blades, and look what he does...sorry the picture quality ain't that great, but it's what my camera takes.

Wow that is a nice plane! I wish I could build like that.

Pat

dbcisco 11-23-2009 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 664183)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

This thread started catty but now it's gone to the dogs.

degreen60 11-23-2009 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by dbcisco (Post 664241)
This thread started catty but now it's gone to the dogs.

It was fishey for a while, maybe the cat caught the flying fish.

dbcisco 11-23-2009 07:15 PM

What a bunch of animals!

floss 11-23-2009 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by Ron (Post 661079)
Floss those are good looking wheels.......I am going to see if I can come up with a "tire" then I'll make the rims...I'll be looking for about a 9 1/2" O ring...I'm thinking one from plastic pipe like storm sewer pipe or something like that might work...I like the depron idea over the plywood....I have the axles figured out, just am stuck on the tires....i have seen lots machined out of aluminum, but they're just almost as heavy as the plastic wheels, and some don't keep tires on very well.........I don't need tires falling off :p>..............I have enough trouble keeping other things together without that :rolleyes:...... model will weigh about 10 or 11 pounds.
I will have a total framed up weight this weekend I hope....framing and sheeting is almost complete...just need to sand out the seams from joining the sheeting, do some 1/16 by 5/16 trim strips, sand my brains out, then it's ready for motor radio/servos, and covering. I'm doing pull pull on everything this time .....ailerons too....I need to fabricate a cowl...that will take a bit of time :eek:

Ron
Tires should be the easy part, go to any real engineering supply outlet and buy a length of O-ring cord (6-8mm diameter is good for 35-40" WS sized planes) and a bottle of o-ring glue. CA will often do the trick, you want a true contact glue that bonds in 1 second. Once you master cutting a nice square face on the O-ring cord tires will never be an issue again. Make them a nice fit a bit smaller than the rim and they pop on and don't even need gluing to stay on the rim.

Steve

Ron 11-23-2009 09:18 PM

Thanks for that Steve....
Pat......you just get a photo, some balsa, a bunch of razor blades, a sheet of paper, and let your imagination run wild....
this thread has kinda gone to the dogs hasn't it? well it IS a dog eat dog world out there :-) well,.... back to my cave to make some more shavings..........

Ryan Flyer 11-24-2009 05:18 PM

Well Ron I will have to try that I am just worried that I will make something that looks good but will not fly. I will just have to see what happens.

Pat

WWI Ace 11-26-2009 05:20 PM

Happy Thanksgiving you bunch of Turkeys!!!! Steve

scalercflyer 11-26-2009 07:38 PM

Happy Thanksgiving
 
Just wanted to say that I'm thankful for all of you Guys here on our thread. :) Happy Thanksgiving to one and all! :D Do they have turkeys in Texas? :eek: I wonder what they call them if they do? :confused::eek::D Maybe everyone from Texas is a turkey!!?? :eek::D Who loves you Steve? Can't wait to see what I get for Christmas! How about you Guys? Anything on your want list? ;) Marty.

degreen60 11-26-2009 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 665262)
Do they have turkeys in Texas? :eek: I wonder what they call them if they do?

Turkey Buzzard???

Happy Thanksgiving.

Do you know how to keep a turkey in suspense?

WWI Ace 11-26-2009 10:49 PM

I'm thinking of asking Santa for some new friends because mine are mean!!! LOL!!!! We don't eat turkey on Thanksgiving in Texas. We eat armadillo on the half shell!!! Steve

Biplane Murphy 11-26-2009 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by wwi ace (Post 665230)
happy thanksgiving you bunch of turkeys!!!! Steve

+1 :):):):):):):)

degreen60 11-27-2009 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by WWI Ace (Post 665296)
I'm thinking of asking Santa for some new friends because mine are mean!!! LOL!!!! We don't eat turkey on Thanksgiving in Texas. We eat armadillo on the half shell!!! Steve

My greatgrampa was a home boy(ask a Texan, see if they know what a home boy was). My mother moved from Texas in a covered wagon to Indiana in 1917, guess that makes me half Texan.


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