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degreen60 09-25-2011 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 835798)
Well Boys, here's my next project for the indoor flying season. :cool: Started it last night. What do you think about the camo scheme in the picture? ????Maybe you Guys can suggest something (and no, I'm not painting it RED!). Comments Boys? :D Marty
http://www.parkscalemodels.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=42

Go shoot that Flyzone Albatros right out of the sky. I have several paper model files of the SE5A. You could try printing on tissue paper, I have an artical how to, and use that to cover the plane.

TM4197 09-25-2011 06:59 PM

I would take DeG. expertise on covering this little gal. What I would like to see? The night fighter version (red diamonds). That way its not all
"RED".

DeG: When I put the flight settings to "real" on the FSX...they will land just like the real ones, ground loops are the norm more than nose down in the ground...:D

scalercflyer 09-25-2011 08:01 PM

Covering/mods
 

Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 835806)
Go shoot that Flyzone Albatros right out of the sky. I have several paper model files of the SE5A. You could try printing on tissue paper, I have an artical how to, and use that to cover the plane.

Thanks Boys for the suggestions. D would you be so kind as to shoot me that article? I think that's a great idea. I might (but I can't promise!) put a little red on her. I think I'll use a 10 gram brushless, a 7.4v, 300mah 2s, and 2.5g servos in her. The instructions are very vague about mounting the servos. I might consider pull/pull to keep it light. Need to figure it out. I plan to add some details out of foam/3mm depron (exhaust, machine gun, etc). Also going to use the HK orange RX since this is an indoor flyer and I don't have to worry about range so much. I recently bought a couple for my indoor planes. They all bound to the transmitter OK, so we will see if they are good. marty

TM4197 09-25-2011 08:27 PM

Flyer: I use the orange specials myself for outdoors in most of my 250 series. I have had no issues at all with range. I also have one in a DG1000 sailplane with a SAT plugged in, Specked out many times...again no issues. I bought 5 of them..all five have been great! Good luck on your SE5.[popcorn]

scalercflyer 09-25-2011 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 835831)
Flyer: I use the orange specials myself for outdoors in most of my 250 series. I have had no issues at all with range. I also have one in a DG1000 sailplane with a SAT plugged in, Specked out many times...again no issues. I bought 5 of them..all five have been great! Good luck on your SE5.[popcorn]

Excellent TM! BTW I forgot to mention that I bought 2 satellites for 2 of them (just to tryout). Have you tried one yet? Marty

TM4197 09-25-2011 09:06 PM

I use the one SAT I got from Spectrum, (came with the radio) it works fine with the orange Rx. I have not gotten the SAT from HK, although I understand they work very well! I was a little nervous at first, but I really have had no issues. Something about $4.99 vs $75.00 makes you squint just a little!! LOL.. Probably have had 50+ flights on the orange Rx.

degreen60 09-25-2011 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 835828)
D would you be so kind as to shoot me that article? I think that's a great idea.

PM me you email. I probably have it but lets make sure. I will email you some paper SE5As to look at too.

degreen60 09-26-2011 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 835828)
D would you be so kind as to shoot me that article? I think that's a great idea.

I looked and it is not an artice I have but a URL to the artical. I have not used this method yet. I have just taped tissue to a paper sheet and printed on an inkjet then used WBP to stick to model.

Here is the URL.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1217546

HobbyJumper 09-26-2011 12:38 AM

Excellent. Keep them coming. Better than TV.


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 835620)
My son made another video.


scalercflyer 09-26-2011 02:37 AM

The plan
 
If you Guys will look at the construction manual http://www.parkscalemodels.com/downl...Whim_SE-5a.pdf you will see this is a sorta SE5a (a box). By that I mean it has the basic siloulette but it can stand some improvement. So here's the plan: While researching the SE5a (Squadron Signal book), I noticed the fuse to be rounded at the top of the fuse all the way back. Well I decided to add some real thin depron to add a turtledeck. Also I will add some exhaust stacks, and a radiator as well. Of course no respectable SE5a ever went into combat with out a gun(s) so I will add a Vickers MG to the fuse and a Lewis MG to the upper wing. These too shall be made out of depron to keep the weight down. I have some HK 1 1/4" wheels to add to the LG. I have the whole wooden airframe done at this point. Next the controls/gear, the mods and finally covering. If I can find my Wife's camera I will posts some pics. So far it's been fun to build her. Hope it flys good. :oops::D;) Marty

degreen60 09-26-2011 03:09 PM

Look at this. I may have to steal some of my wife's jewery to sell. She has learned to keep her purse hid from me.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...700mm_PNF.html

Gunnar155 09-26-2011 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 835975)
Look at this. I may have to steal some of my wife's jewery to sell. She has learned to keep her purse hid from me.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...700mm_PNF.html

Its good looking, but whats up with the vertical stab? Im looking at a 3 view right now and hobbyking's spad's vertical stab looks grossly oversized...

Gunnar

TM4197 09-26-2011 04:30 PM

I ordered the Spad VIII a few days back, once in, I will give a brief review on her. As with most small semi scales, it seems to be common to have a larger fin or stab. We'll see how she actually looks and flies in a week or two, since its coming in on a small boat from china.[popcorn]

wattman 09-26-2011 04:43 PM

Anxious to see how it is in the hands of a few members here :)

I would like one myself , but , will wait and see .

[popcorn]

degreen60 09-26-2011 05:11 PM

In the single channel days we always made the tail fins about 10% over size so the plane would fly. Course radio control then was a free flight you could turn around so it did not fly away. At least you hoped it would turn, I hunted for one for about 3 days before I found it and knew close to where it landed.

scalercflyer 09-26-2011 06:00 PM

Spad
 
Have you seen the rudder/fin on the HK Spad? It's HUGE. :eek: I don't think it needs to be that big. Great Planes makes a Spad with the scale sized rudder/fin that flys just fine. The HK looks funny to me (then again I am somewhat of a purist) :eek::D;) Marty

degreen60 09-26-2011 07:01 PM

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Another crashed plane arrived today. I think it is going to be a rare bird. Not sure it was use in WWI but info I found says this model was for the military but it was probably never accepted. It did train a lot of German pilots. Need to put the finishing touches on the Bristol Scout so I can start rebuilding it. For those that want to guess here is the tail. There is a small write up about it in Janes WWI aircraft but no pictures.

TM4197 09-26-2011 09:09 PM

I would be interested to get the rudder/Fin measurement from one of our folks who owns a Great Planes Spad. The length from front to rear of the fin....(along the fuse) the height of the rudder top to bottom. Then a measurement from the propeller to the rear of the rudder. Lets see if pictures can be deceiving.:D

touche 09-27-2011 03:55 AM

GP Spad X111 rudder is 5 inches high 8-1/4 tip to fuse and from front of prop to tail is 27 inches..
I tried to order one today but had no luck getting my order in will have to try again later..

touche 09-27-2011 04:01 AM

I sure wish they would leave the decals off and let the customer apply them. Some of us like to "toy" with our planes spruce them up as they say.
You there Degreen lol

TM4197 09-27-2011 04:01 AM

Hey thanks touche! I got a feeling they both have the same rudder area, when it comes down to the numbers. I'll report the numbers when I get her in for the review.
Get her up in the air and flying, and I bet she looks like the real deal! Hope you can get yours on the boat soon!

scalercflyer 09-27-2011 04:04 AM

GP Spad
 
I also have one. :cool: Any and all specs upon request Gentlemen. :) Marty

TM4197 09-27-2011 04:14 AM

Will be interesting to see the specs compared! I never thought I would buy a HK plane, but I couldnt help getting this one, really different scheme compared to the GP model, however I was really close to getting one when I saw everyones on here! Just gotta love the Spad!:D

Biplane Murphy 09-27-2011 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 835798)
Well Boys, here's my next project for the indoor flying season. :cool: Started it last night. What do you think about the camo scheme in the picture? ????Maybe you Guys can suggest something (and no, I'm not painting it RED!). Comments Boys? :D Marty
http://www.parkscalemodels.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=42

Did someone mention Red WWI Airplanes?????
:eek:;-):tc::cool::ws:;):Q[popcorn]

touche 09-27-2011 08:48 PM

So..!!! for those that have theirs how is the quality..keeping in mind it's a mass production flyer.
As well did yours come from overseas or from the US warehouse. How long from order to arrival.
Thanks
I'm on the road in less than a month to escape the snow and cold so may wait till I get to Fla to order it. I'm in big trouble as I'm just down the road from Headsuprc..;)

degreen60 09-28-2011 03:19 AM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 836089)
Hey thanks touche! I got a feeling they both have the same rudder area, when it comes down to the numbers. I'll report the numbers when I get her in for the review.
Get her up in the air and flying, and I bet she looks like the real deal! Hope you can get yours on the boat soon!

Put one of the pilots in it I sent you. I want one too. LOL

TM4197 09-28-2011 06:43 AM

I might have too Don!! .....YOU WOULD THINK...HK could afford to put a scaled pilot in the plane??? but...no, that might cost em 50 cents!:eek:
Hows that Bristol coming along??[popcorn]

FlyingMonkey 09-28-2011 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Biplane Murphy (Post 836180)
Did someone mention Red WWI Airplanes?????
:eek:;-):tc::cool::ws:;):Q[popcorn]

http://www.flitetest.com/articles/fokker-triplane

degreen60 09-28-2011 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 836291)
I might have too Don!! .....YOU WOULD THINK...HK could afford to put a scaled pilot in the plane??? but...no, that might cost em 50 cents!:eek:
Hows that Bristol coming along??[popcorn]

It is almost finished. Waiting on crystal for the receiver. I need to fly and make trim adj on servo then install pilot and other little trim items.

degreen60 09-28-2011 08:05 PM

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The Bristol Scout rebuild is almost finished so I am working on my next rebuild. Do some research and see if you can guess what model I am rebuilding to fly again now. Here is the finished tail. You will have to look hard, not much info on this plane.

MaxHeadspeed 09-29-2011 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 836372)
....see if you can guess what model I am rebuilding....Here is the finished tail. You will have to look hard, not much info on this plane.

You're rebuilding a model of Hans Grade's 1909 Grade II Libelle (dragon fly) Eindecker.
Do you have any more pics of your build?


http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/grade.html



degreen60 09-29-2011 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxHeadspeed (Post 836539)
It's Hans Grade's 1909 Grade II Libelle (dragon fly) Eindecker


http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/grade.html


Yes. The model is the 1913 Grade III.

TM4197 09-29-2011 08:02 PM

One of the GWS IPS motor systems would probably be perfect for that plane, and actually look somewhat scale in appearance.

degreen60 09-29-2011 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 836558)
One of the GWS IPS motor systems would probably be perfect for that plane, and actually look somewhat scale in appearance.

It had what looked to be a 300 motor and gear box. The fuselage(balsa square stick) was in pieces. I replaced it with a CF arrow shaft. Wattman sent me some motor mounts and one of them was a tube mount. It was a perfect fit on the arrow shaft and a 2410-09 840KV brushless motor I had. If that is too much power I will order a 2410-12Y which turns even slower.

I should have to plane finished in a couple more days and will post pictures. Video soon after that if I don't crash it.

I am now looking for a pilot. Need one with arms. I may try making paper arms using a paper WWII German soldier file I have and attaching to one of my vacuum formed pilots.

Here is a sales pictures of the model.

TM4197 09-30-2011 01:51 AM

Looking forward to your finished plane!!!! I like it!!

degreen60 10-02-2011 12:58 AM

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The Grade Eindecker III is waiting to take its first flight after rebuild.

degreen60 10-02-2011 02:00 AM

After sun went down the wind dropped so I took the Grade Eindecker out for test flight right at dusk. Flew great but when I went to land almost too dark to see it so landing was a little ruff but no damage. At least this plane does not flip over in the grass when the wheels touch, it goes up on its nose then back down on the tail wheel.

MaxHeadspeed 10-02-2011 02:57 AM

Well done. It's quite a unique RC flying model.

scalercflyer 10-02-2011 09:14 AM

Nice job
 
Nice job as always D! :cool::) Marty

HobbyJumper 10-02-2011 01:23 PM

My goodness. What a special bird.


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 836925)
The Grade Eindecker III is waiting to take its first flight after rebuild.



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