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degreen60 09-27-2010 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 753359)
Sounds like a good way to make pilots D. Did you make your own vacuum tool or have a real Vac-u-form? What do you use for plastic? An old coke bottle perhaps? Maybe you can show us a sample. Thanks, Marty

I picked up an old Mattel Vac-u-form in a junk shop for about $5. I buy precut but not drilled sheets for around $10 for 50. I do not think these sheets make as clean a copy as the original sheets but are a lot cheaper. After painting they look good enough for me. I always give the pilots a final wash of thined black paint. Kind of hides flaws and makes them look dirty. The pictures of my Pup has one of my larger pilots in it, came with a Kaven Albatros. My next picture of the Breguet 14 will show 2 people made with my small pilot master. I think I got it long ago in a Sterling kit.

scalercflyer 09-27-2010 07:04 PM

GP tech support
 
Just got off the phone with their tech support guy Mark. All I have to say is WOW! :eek: He listened to my problem, told me he was glad I called and expressed his concern. :cool: I told him about the problem with the decals and he is sending me a new wing. :cool: I also sent an email to their tech support line and am awaiting a response. :) Great Job Mark! :) Thanks! Marty

degreen60 09-27-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 753359)
Maybe you can show us a sample. Thanks, Marty

Here are some of the pilots I made.

TM4197 09-28-2010 02:35 AM

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Scalercflyer: If you have a Michelle's craft store, they sell florest paint that will not damage the foam. I used forest green and brown on this tiger moth..the foam was white, I shot very light coats of green then filled in with brown. Just the Green would look good on your Pup. It ages the look of the body as well. Used the green "heavy spray" on the Scout wings. I thought I heard Degreen60 sticking a pin in his airplane voodoo doll again...this time it was a Bristol Scout. I'am not flying mine for weeks now!!!!! [popcorn]

scalercflyer 09-28-2010 03:25 AM

In the hands of the Germans
 
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Well I tried converting the Pup to a captured plane. Not completely satisfied with it though. I think I'll paint her (per all of your suggestions) Since I think it would look better. I'm entertaining painting the crosses on it too instead of printed paper attached with white glue. It doesn't seem to stick well anyway but I wanted you Guys to get the idea. What do you think? Kinda different HUH? marty

degreen60 09-28-2010 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 753570)
I'm entertaining painting the crosses on it too instead of printed paper attached with white glue. It doesn't seem to stick well anyway but I wanted you Guys to get the idea. What do you think? Kinda different HUH? marty

I use Elmer's Washable School Glue Stick to attach printed paper. Were it comes loose I just run the stick around the edges again. It will finally stick tight enough not to come loose.

enemyace19 09-29-2010 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 753570)
Well I tried converting the Pup to a captured plane. Not completely satisfied with it though. I think I'll paint her (per all of your suggestions) Since I think it would look better. I'm entertaining painting the crosses on it too instead of printed paper attached with white glue. It doesn't seem to stick well anyway but I wanted you Guys to get the idea. What do you think? Kinda different HUH? marty

Looks good to me

TM4197 09-29-2010 02:20 AM

I like it.....paint the wheel covers half black, half white!

scalercflyer 09-29-2010 02:40 AM

Thanks Boys! I am continuing with the build. On the wheels I was thinking of putting some small crosses. More to come. Marty

degreen60 09-29-2010 04:18 AM

Looks good, now my Pup pilot needs to get those black crosses in his cross hairs.

degreen60 09-29-2010 04:19 AM

Now we have at least 2 of the GP Pups that do not look like all the rest.

scalercflyer 09-29-2010 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 753858)
Looks good, now my Pup pilot needs to get those black crosses in his cross hairs.

My combat flying skills honed in the war choked skies over South Jersey will save the day! :eek: You'll never get on my six D! :eek::D Marty

degreen60 09-29-2010 10:31 PM

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Breguet 14 is now armed. Still needs bomb racks installed. Also closeups of the aileron cables.

TM4197 09-29-2010 11:05 PM

Really nice job!! That looks great!! are the ailerons smooth? Nice job on the engine cowling too! Can;t wait to see her in the air!

degreen60 09-29-2010 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 754040)
Really nice job!! That looks great!! are the ailerons smooth? Nice job on the engine cowling too! Can;t wait to see her in the air!

When I first installed the ailerons I had lots of down but very little up. I could not get the top line tight enough to get the ailerons to go up. I made 2 small metal clips that go through the brace wire holes at the top of the front middle struts. I pulled the upper aileron lines tight by hooking them in the clips. Now I have lots of up too. They are very smooth but the plane will only do a slow roll. I find I only need to use the rudder if I raise the nose while flying slow.

degreen60 10-05-2010 02:06 AM

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Bomb racks are installed. I also made a new cowl. The last cowl was made in 3 pieces and taped together. I redid the graphics for the cowl into one peice with tabs to glue the cowl together. I am looking for easy way to make bombs. I think maybe drinking straw for body of bomb. Looking for something I can use as a master for my Vac-U-Form to make ends of bomb. Going to look for an ink pen cap that I can cut in half for a master. I may just sand some foam for the ends.

dbcisco 10-05-2010 03:07 AM

That is so cool!

wattman 10-06-2010 04:15 PM

Nice bomber dgreen60 , nice work . :)

scalercflyer 10-07-2010 01:44 AM

Almost done
 
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Allright Boys, here's the latest shots of my "captured" Sopwith Pup. Notice i gave her an under wing streaked paint job with diluted WB paint. Also have installed under wing crosses that match the ones on the top. All controls and batt are installed and tested. Also added a spread bar between the wheels. I just have a few things left.
  • Rigging (need to find some black carpet thread)
  • Machine gun (thanks for sending me one Don!)
  • Crosses on the rudder (should I leave the stripes on it and add the crosses or paint it white and put the crosses on?)
  • Skull and crossbones on the wheel covers
What do you Boys think so far? Marty

degreen60 10-07-2010 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 755652)
Rigging (need to find some black carpet thread)
  • Machine gun (thanks for sending me one Don!)
  • Crosses on the rudder (should I leave the stripes on it and add the crosses or paint it white and put the crosses on?)
  • Skull and crossbones on the wheel covers
What do you Boys think so far? Marty

Paint the rudder white and add the crosses.

If you would like some black upholstery thread PM me your address and I will mail you some. It is what I use on my planes.

My Pup can beat up your Pup.

scalercflyer 10-07-2010 04:03 AM

Batteries etc
 
Boys I now purchase my servos (same as HK but are Tower Pro) and other items from Hobby Partz in California USa. The prices are the same (in most cases) as HK and the shipping is FREE! Check out this site and let me know what you think. PS just ordered a 3s 2200 mah 20C battery from them for $13.70 and FREE shipping (Gee I already said that My Bad!)! Marty

http://www.hobbypartz.com/

degreen60 10-07-2010 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 755652)
Also added a spread bar between the wheels.

I added the spreader bar on my Pup too. It kept breaking off when landing. I drilled small holes in the landing gear struts and the spreader bar. Used thread to bind the spreader bar to the struts and CA everything together. Have not had it break loose sence.

scalercflyer 10-07-2010 04:08 AM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 755683)
Paint the rudder white and add the crosses.

If you would like some black upholstery thread PM me your address and I will mail you some. It is what I use on my planes.

My Pup can beat up your Pup.

I don't know D! I just added a nice machine gun to mine and I'm itching to fill an allied plane full of lead! You might have just volunteered! :p> Marty

scalercflyer 10-07-2010 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 755685)
I added the spreader bar on my Pup too. It kept breaking off when landing. I drilled small holes in the landing gear struts and the spreader bar. Used thread to bind the spreader bar to the struts and CA everything together. Have not had it break loose sence.

Good idea I like it D. Marty BTW pm'd you

IndyJones 10-07-2010 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 755688)
I don't know D! I just added a nice machine gun to mine and I'm itching to fill an allied plane full of lead! You might have just volunteered! :p> Marty

Wouldn't it be cool if Flyzone added some IR dogfighting capability?

degreen60 10-07-2010 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 755688)
I don't know D! I just added a nice machine gun to mine and I'm itching to fill an allied plane full of lead! You might have just volunteered! :p> Marty

I am not worried about your gun, I put a hex on those printed guns I sent you. Everything I send you guys I put a hex on, just ship me the broken and crashed planes.

TM4197 10-08-2010 05:03 AM

So...you telling me that the pilot figure your sending me will put my Bristol Scout in a death spiral??:eek:...Guess I better get some holy water from the church down the street!

degreen60 10-08-2010 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 755972)
So...you telling me that the pilot figure your sending me will put my Bristol Scout in a death spiral??:eek:...Guess I better get some holy water from the church down the street!

Now I am going to have to pay extra to have the hex water proofed. I will put extra strong hex on the pilot for the Bristal Scout, I don't have one yet. I am also sending a pilot for an Eflite DVII just in case you have or get one, I need it too.

scalercflyer 10-08-2010 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 756049)
Now I am going to have to pay extra to have the hex water proofed. I will put extra strong hex on the pilot for the Bristal Scout, I don't have one yet. I am also sending a pilot for an Eflite DVII just in case you have or get one, I need it too.

You're such a bad man D! :eek::D;) Marty

TM4197 10-08-2010 09:51 PM

He is like the "SANFORD AND SON" of the RC world! [popcorn]

degreen60 10-09-2010 01:15 AM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 756138)
He is like the "SANFORD AND SON" of the RC world! [popcorn]

Somebody has to recycle the trash you make. I have my own rebuild now. I lost oriation on the Breguet 14 tonight. It crashed out of site over the hill. Both lower wings are ripped off and some damage in the nose. I will have to take the off cowl to see all the damage. The wings are an easy fix. If nose not too bad it will be flying again in a few days.

TM4197 10-09-2010 01:55 AM

Hope shes ok and fixable....(what Iam I saying)?? you'll have her up soon!! Take some pics....! What the heck happened?

degreen60 10-09-2010 03:23 AM


Originally Posted by TM4197 (Post 756187)
Hope shes ok and fixable....(what Iam I saying)?? you'll have her up soon!! Take some pics....! What the heck happened?


Dummy at the controls. I lost which way the plane was flying and it was too far out and too low for me to regain control. I think it hit on the prop cause the prop is broke in 3 pieces. I took the cowl off and damage is not too bad. Motor mount broke loose. Only thing I have to make new is the cowl. Easy to do, just print another one and glue together. Nice thing about foam, clean breaks and large pieces. Ill take pictures before I start rebuild.

degreen60 10-09-2010 08:58 PM

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Here is the Breguet 14 after the crash. Only damage to top wing is were struts pulled out. Lower wing needs glued back together. Fuselage only needs wing strut and motor mount glued back into place. Landing gear will go back into place when the motor mount is fixed, then the rear landing gear legs can be glued back together.

scalercflyer 10-10-2010 01:38 AM

A mark
 

Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 756334)
Here is the Breguet 14 after the crash. Only damage to top wing is were struts pulled out. Lower wing needs glued back together. Fuselage only needs wing strut and motor mount glued back into place. Landing gear will go back into place when the motor mount is fixed, then the rear landing gear legs can be glued back together.

Boy that's gonna leave a mark! :eek: Marty

degreen60 10-10-2010 01:56 AM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 756385)
Boy that's gonna leave a mark! :eek: Marty

It is really not all that bad. I already have the motor mount fixed. Have the struts back in place and now waiting on the glue to dry where I had to glue the bottom wings back on. All that is left to do is replace the inside wing brace wires and glue the landing gear legs back together. May have it back in the air tomorrow night.

dbcisco 10-10-2010 02:12 AM

Degreen is the McGuiver of WWI model aviation.
I think he could scratch build a Dr.1 with a milk carton, pocket watch and masking tape.:D

wattman 10-10-2010 03:25 AM

Mcguiver ? or Dr Frankenstein , giving new life to various pieces of broken plane bodys and mended wings ? :concern:

::o

Its alive , its alive , it flys again ...............

Trick or treat :cool:

degreen60 10-10-2010 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by wattman (Post 756416)
Mcguiver ? or Dr Frankenstein , giving new life to various pieces of broken plane bodys and mended wings ? :concern:

::o

Its alive , its alive , it flys again ...............

Trick or treat :cool:

Igor, flip the switch then stand back, the storm is just right to create a large lighting bolt.

When I was a boy things were tuff. Lived in the country and I would walk the roads looking in ditches for soda bottles thrown out of cars cause they were worth 2 cents. I used that money to buy my models. I learned to repair almost any crash.

scalercflyer 10-10-2010 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 756426)
Igor, flip the switch then stand back, the storm is just right to create a large lighting bolt.

When I was a boy things were tuff. Lived in the country and I would walk the roads looking in ditches for soda bottles thrown out of cars cause they were worth 2 cents. I used that money to buy my models. I learned to repair almost any crash.

Yeah D, Boys. As a young lad I cut lawns and did odds and ends jobs to get hobby money for FF rubber models and plastic models (some cars, others planes). :cool: I has a job in high school delivering appliances for $1.15 and hour and I thought I was in the big money! :eek::D:cool: My how things have changed! Marty


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