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Walt Thyng 09-04-2005 01:59 AM

photo try
got 4 minutes left. sixth try.

I give up )-:

WWI Ace 09-04-2005 10:18 PM

Come on Walt!! You've got to figure this out!! Don't kick out a couple of "teaser" pictures and then leave me hanging again. Gosh, if it's "Top Secret" how you build it just say so but don't tease me. It's not fair!!! Seriously though, it looks like a great build so far. You are very talented!! If you get it figured out post some pics. If not while your building, at least figure it out and post some finished pics, or even better a video!!!

Walt Thyng 09-05-2005 12:55 AM

Trying something differentfile:///Users/walterth/Desktop/Tripe...tos/Untitled-1

Walt Thyng 09-05-2005 12:56 AM

Okay something else[IMG]file:///Users/walterth/Desktop/Tripe%20photos/File_01.jpg[/IMG][IMG]file:///Users/walterth/Desktop/Tripe%20photos/File_01.jpg[/IMG]

Walt Thyng 09-05-2005 12:58 AM

do you think if I fool around with this long enough the moderator will speak up?

right now the only option I see is to have Walgreen's make me a floppy. It seems to be the only way to get the file size down to RCU's limits. Too tired to do it tonight.

Walt Thyng 09-05-2005 04:24 AM

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Still trying

Walt Thyng 09-05-2005 04:32 AM

OOps; hit "send" too fast. anyway the pic of my Direct Connections Sea fury finished as Reno Racer "Furias" has given me the answer --- go to Walgreen's and get a floppy made. Will do tomorrow.

Furias info: Span 64" area 791 wt 8.25 lbs. Power Axi 4130-20 on an 8S2P TP 4200mah pack. Prop APCe14/10. B&D mechanical retracts. No flaps as full scale has flaps removed. Excellent flyer. Smooth and fast.

Finished the ailerons, elevators and Rudder on the Dr.1. If tomorrow is as windy as they say I'll be fitting the lower and midwings and horizontal stab and checking for incidence. May start bending some music wire too.

Walt Thyng 09-05-2005 07:46 PM

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I think this'll do it. I'm posting them in the same order as my original attempt (see above),

Question: my measurments show that my plans are set up +2 degrees for everything. This goes against my Bi-plane experience where you want the wing ahead of the c/g to stall last. Based on that I'm thinking 3,2 0 bottom to top wing, What say you?

Walt Thyng 09-05-2005 07:46 PM

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One more for drooling (-:

Walt Thyng 09-05-2005 07:53 PM

Whew!!!! The secret was getting a Walgreen's low res floppy made.

I've got all the movable flight surfaces framed up and will try to get some photos later. The plans call for throwing 1/4 in balsa at them, but I chose to build them up for a more scale appearance. I also re-aligned the scallops to match the rib spacing. Got to start thinking about the pull/pull systems.

Oh yes, some of you purists will be unhappy, but I've discovered that my old reliable Astro 40G will do a perfect job powering this baby and I may stay wih NiMh for cost and balance reasons (did I mention that I built up a 20 cell round pack for the Camel that fits in the cowl?).

WWI Ace 09-05-2005 08:37 PM

I am drooling Walt!! The wait for the pics was worth it!! You are qiute the builder. If you ever decide to "kit" one out, let me know. It would take me forever to cut all those ribs!! What do you use to cut them out? I have looked and looked for a 36"-40" wingspan tripe kit and can't find one. Have you decided whose plane your going to do? I would like to build either Werner Voss' tripe or maybe the all flat black tripe of leading tripe ace Joeseph Jacobs. You have to keep us up to date on this build. I can't wait to see the finished plane! As far as "exact" scale outline, I don't see a problem with fudging here and there to get a better flying plane. As long as it doesn't get too carried away. I thought about buying the ARF tripe from Polkshobbies but it seems like alot of people have a hard time getting them to fly right on an electric conversion.

scalercflyer 09-06-2005 01:40 AM

Man O Man Walt!! What great building!! I can't wait for the flight report. Seems like everybody does the same old red tripe. Do something different. I have some great ideas if you would like. My "other" hobby is researching WWI aviation history, particullary German fighters. Say the word and I will provide. BTW guys, I have a set of tripe plans for Depron in e-mailable format. If anyone wants them, say the word and it's yours!!

WWI Ace 09-06-2005 03:05 AM

Hey Scalercflyer, I would be interested in a set of those plans if you have time!!!

Walt Thyng 09-06-2005 03:08 AM

If you check my earlier post I used a ply template for the basic ribs (about 40) and then a second for the ribs that are sheeted over. Making the templates does take time, but after that I only needed to make four sets.

Sorry, but I have no intention of "kittng" these plan. since they are from
"Model Builder" I assume they might be available through bill Northup.

Scale Flyer, as I indicated earlier,I found an authentic color scheme that I had never seen before buried deep in a "google" search on the Dr.1.

Fitted the bottom wing today. It came our dead on at 2 degrees +.

WWI Ace 09-07-2005 11:32 PM

I was asking about what tools you use to cut them once you have the rib patterns? I think you misunderstood my question. Sorry, sometimes I don't make myself very clear.

Bear 09-08-2005 03:26 AM

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Here is another one for you, this one is NOT scale.
I'll attempt to attach 2 photos.

Bear 09-08-2005 03:29 AM

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Hmmmm. . . . .
Aparently only one uploaded, another one. . . .

Bear 09-08-2005 03:31 AM

I'm not doing something right I guess . . . I'll have to
read some . . . . .

Bear 09-08-2005 04:11 AM

OK, I have found the key. . . I guess.
On my screen I am getting a long horizontal box outlined in blue
for the attachments.
In the previous posts you guys have made there have been small
dash blue lines inside the box. I have been able to put my
cursor on and click to open when it gives me "the finger" . . .
maybe I should say "the hand". It then opens the file.
I also found that the boxes with no dash blue line in them
would give me the finger If I moved the cursor very slowly
inside the box. Click and it opens a file.
Is this what is taking place with everyone else, or do I have
some setting screwed up?
I did see that there were actually two files loaded in my first
post although there was only one blue dash line showing.

Walt Thyng 09-08-2005 06:23 AM

Ace: once I have the templates done I roughcut the ribs on a Dremel equivalent saw, then I finish shaping then on a Demel sander with a fine grit (180-220) sandpaper. he fine grit keps me from over-sanding the blanks..

If I still haven't answered your question ask again.

PS fitted the mid wing today; lots of sanding. Have to start bending wre next.

Ron 09-08-2005 09:21 PM

walt...I notice you are using a fairly symmetrical rib section....any particular reason??

Walt Thyng 09-08-2005 09:39 PM

as I mentioned earlier this plan is optimized for aerobatics. It is fun scale. The airfoil is fully symetrical and the stab has a diamond airfoil.

WWI Ace 09-09-2005 02:28 AM

Thanks Walt. That was what I wanted to know. I just didn't ask the question correctly. You'll have to excuse me. I am trying to learn about this scratchbuilding thing. I've built plenty of kits, but now I would like to try to build a plane with my own two hands!!!

WWI Ace 09-09-2005 02:36 AM

Hey scalercflyer!!! I got the plans for the depron triplane. Is there only supposed to be two pages? I have a page with the wings, top view, and profile. The second page is the wing jigs. Are there any pages for former patterns? It's a cool set of plans!!! Have you built one of these? I would like to see some pics of a built plane. About what wingspan would you recommend? Sorry to "hammer" you with all these questions. I just want to be sure that I have all the information. I hope your family is well!!!

WWI Ace 09-09-2005 02:42 AM

Bear. That's one crazy looking little triplane!!! Does it fly well? It looks like it would be fairly aerobatic. What power system do you have in it? You don't have to have a scale plane to post here. All you need is a WWI plane. Did you come up with this plane on your own or is it a kit? How about a video?

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