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degreen60 02-11-2010 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by 7car7 (Post 691334)
Need larger skis?

Took it back out this morning, snow is not as fluffy. Did ROS ok. Only problem is the wind blew hard and I only have a small place where the snow has not blown thin enough for grass to stick through to take off from. I can land anywhere but the little blades of grass turn the plane on takeoff and stop it. Today has no wind but cold, 11 degrees. Good thing I fly close to the house. Makes it easy to keep batteries and me warm. LOL

Ron 02-20-2010 06:04 PM

Hey guys, I am looking for information on an obscure Fokker.....I believe it's a V 17 or something like that, I understand it was a shoulder wing plane, but I could be wrong, as I have only one very poor photo...anyone ever heard about it?
Hopefully it will be my next WW1 project.

TM4197 02-20-2010 06:38 PM

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Was it a Junker-Fokker aircraft CL 1 ? That was a low wing two seater, with no external bracing.

scalercflyer 02-20-2010 07:57 PM

Fokker V17
 
Here you go Ron....
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJN5eo6Z9Ro[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-XxIhKC6u8&NR=1[/media]

BTW, reference material on this plane is hard to find. Kinda rare aircraft. Marty

dbcisco 02-20-2010 09:34 PM

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The V.17 was an experimental monoplane which appears to be a D.VIII converted from a parasol to a mid fuselage wing attatchment. The wing sillouette is along the lines of a D.VIII.

Ron 02-21-2010 01:24 AM

Marty...DB... thanks...that's the one....DB's sketches/pictures are a close match to what I have on hand, so I am pretty much convinced that the wing was mid fuselage, not placed on the top fuselage longeron like the one in the movie Marty sent....BUT they both appear to be a D V1 fuselage and tail group......very close to the EV/ D V111, so if I was to use the EV fuselage, likely no one would know the difference, since not too many guys have actually seen a V 17...........;) I'm thinking the movie just may be a V 20...but I can't confirm that.
Think I'll do it in 22 1/2% size, since I just happen to have plans drawn up for 6 of the Fokker series of planes in this size.
Now I need to spend the spring/summer collecting bits and pieces for it...... well actually not all..I have the wing framed up from an earlier try..I just couldn't find where the wing was mounted for sure, so I decided to wait a while, and in the mean time built the tri-plane. :D

79CJ 02-22-2010 06:55 PM

Marty - have you spilled the beans on your next plane? I've missed it if you have. That is unless the post about what it is was as hard to see as this mystery plane supposedly is... :D

Ryan Flyer 02-22-2010 07:03 PM

Just started Building a foam triplane. My avro flew so well I though I would try something else. I am using ff plans with a 12in ws and enlarging them 2.5x to about 30in.
Also working on a 40in ws camel in balsa.
Pat

Biplane Murphy 02-23-2010 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by 79CJ (Post 695129)
Marty - have you spilled the beans on your next plane? I've missed it if you have. That is unless the post about what it is was as hard to see as this mystery plane supposedly is... :D

HAHAHHAHAHAHahhahahhahahahahha haha ha !!!!!!!

Biplane Murphy 02-23-2010 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Ryan Flyer (Post 695130)
Just started Building a foam triplane. My avro flew so well I though I would try something else. I am using ff plans with a 12in ws and enlarging them 2.5x to about 30in.
Also working on a 40in ws camel in balsa.
Pat


40" Camel sounds nice! I want to build one of those someday.

I have a foam Tripehound that Hillbilly made for me, and it flies grrrrreat!!

Biplane Murphy 02-23-2010 05:07 PM

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OK......Marty's next plane.

Luke Skywalker's X-Wing with 4 turbine motors, moving S-Foils, working lasers and retractable landing gear.

:tc::):D:Q

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Ryan Flyer 02-23-2010 06:41 PM

I am hoping My trip will fly great too! I is going together quite fast.

dbcisco 02-24-2010 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by Ron (Post 694479)
... I am looking for information on an obscure Fokker.....I believe it's a V 17 ....

I was just flying a Fokker V.17 in FMS!:$
Yes, the most undeservedly maligned flight sim in history has a model of the Fokker V.17! :D:D:D

degreen60 02-25-2010 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan Flyer (Post 695473)
I am hoping My trip will fly great too! I is going together quite fast.

Here is my foam scratch built Tripe hound. It flys great. I cheated and used GWS Tiger Moth wings.

scalercflyer 02-25-2010 01:08 AM

Guess
 
[QUOTE=Biplane Murphy;695443]OK......Marty's next plane.

Luke Skywalker's X-Wing with 4 turbine motors, moving S-Foils, working lasers and retractable landing gear.

:tc::):D:Q





Darn it Murph you guessed it! :eek: NOT! :rolleyes::eek: Marty[

scalercflyer 02-25-2010 01:12 AM

Another clue
 
Allright you knuckleheads! :eek: It seems like I must ONCE AGAIN provide you with a clue. This hard to see airplane had only one wing and it's not red. ;) :eek: Guess again! :D HAHAHA :D Marty

Ryan Flyer 02-25-2010 01:20 AM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 695903)
Here is my foam scratch built Tripe hound. It flys great. I cheated and used GWS Tiger Moth wings.

Mine is all out of 1/4 in pink foam.

WWI Ace 02-25-2010 02:19 AM

Is it an Einy? I just got home from Dallas from a machining seminar. I can't believe that in all that time you guys haven't figured this riddle out yet so I figured I'd take a stab at it!! Steve

degreen60 02-25-2010 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by Ryan Flyer (Post 695930)
Mine is all out of 1/4 in pink foam.

The front of the fuselage is a foam block with Dollar Tree white foam glued on it and sanded to shape. When I first built it I used all white foam but found out white foam bends where I grip the plane to hand launch. A bad receiver put the plane in a tree where it stayed till a strong wind tore it out. I rebuilt it with pink foam from the front of the cockpit aft exect the top of the fuselage, it is the original white foam sanded to shape. The tail feathers are pink foam sanded thinner. This plane will fly in the wind and is still a floater.

scalercflyer 02-25-2010 02:40 AM

Another clue
 
I can't beleive all of you WWI historians haven't guessed it yet! :eek: Clue: What razor did you use this morning when you shaved? ???? Marty

dbcisco 02-25-2010 02:53 AM

Are you doing a D.8 in unpainted metal?
It is a hard to see, single wing "flying razor".

" It's nickname "Flying Razor" came from the small frontal area making it hard to see."

degreen60 02-25-2010 04:33 AM

Check post 3917. I had guessed the Fokker DVIII

dbcisco 02-25-2010 04:47 AM

Well, the last hint didn't help me then as I shave with a "Razor" and I don't know any planes called Shick, Bic, Braun, Wilkinson or Norelco. ????

Ryan Flyer 02-25-2010 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 695954)
The front of the fuselage is a foam block with Dollar Tree white foam glued on it and sanded to shape. When I first built it I used all white foam but found out white foam bends where I grip the plane to hand launch. A bad receiver put the plane in a tree where it stayed till a strong wind tore it out. I rebuilt it with pink foam from the front of the cockpit aft exect the top of the fuselage, it is the original white foam sanded to shape. The tail feathers are pink foam sanded thinner. This plane will fly in the wind and is still a floater.

I think the pink stuff is pretty good. I used the make the wings on the avro and that works great.
As always with a new scratch build though I am starting to get worried about the maiden:o Just in case I built some bad worp in to it or....

Pat

degreen60 02-25-2010 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Ryan Flyer (Post 696074)
I think the pink stuff is pretty good. I used the make the wings on the avro and that works great.
As always with a new scratch build though I am starting to get worried about the maiden:o Just in case I built some bad worp in to it or....

Pat

My hayfield has saved several of my planes. Also I am getting good at rebuilding. LOL. Nice thing about foam, it breaks into large pieces.

Biplane Murphy 02-25-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Biplane Murphy (Post 695443)
OK......Marty's next plane.

Luke Skywalker's X-Wing with 4 turbine motors, moving S-Foils, working lasers and retractable landing gear.

:tc::):D:Q





Darn it Murph you guessed it! :eek: NOT! :rolleyes::eek: Marty[


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 695922)
Allright you knuckleheads! :eek: It seems like I must ONCE AGAIN provide you with a clue. This hard to see airplane had only one wing and it's not red. ;) :eek: Guess again! :D HAHAHA :D Marty

OK....since my last guess had too many wings, and came from a galaxy far, far away....LOL

How about a Rumpler Taube?

scalercflyer 02-26-2010 03:14 AM

You guessed it!
 
Congrats to both d's! The flying razor DVIII it is (hard to see, no red!)! I have a set of plans from model aviation for this plane spanning 69". I have decided to scratch build a plane instead of just building the Ben Buckle kit I have (sound familar Steve?). The cowl diameter of this beast measures 9"! Should be an interesting build. I will warn you Guys though I am a very slow and meticulous builder. I will post as I go. Marty

dbcisco 02-26-2010 03:17 AM

Green was a popular color on the Razor, and it is the opposite of red.:Q

79CJ 02-26-2010 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 696303)
Congrats to both d's! The flying razor DVIII it is (hard to see, no red!)! I have a set of plans from model aviation for this plane spanning 69". I have decided to scratch build a plane instead of just building the Ben Buckle kit I have (sound familar Steve?). The cowl diameter of this beast measures 9"! Should be an interesting build. I will warn you Guys though I am a very slow and meticulous builder. I will post as I go. Marty

I'll be more than happy to subscribe to the build thread. 9" cowl? That is a beast, my Camel will have a 9" prop!

Biplane Murphy 02-26-2010 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Biplane Murphy (Post 688350)
OK....How about a Fokker DVIII.
Perhaps from The Blue Max.

;)


Originally Posted by dbcisco (Post 695963)
Are you doing a D.8 in unpainted metal?
It is a hard to see, single wing "flying razor".

" It's nickname "Flying Razor" came from the small frontal area making it hard to see."


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 696006)
Check post 3917. I had guessed the Fokker DVIII


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 696303)
Congrats to both d's! The flying razor DVIII it is (hard to see, no red!)! I have a set of plans from model aviation for this plane spanning 69". I have decided to scratch build a plane instead of just building the Ben Buckle kit I have (sound familar Steve?). The cowl diameter of this beast measures 9"! Should be an interesting build. I will warn you Guys though I am a very slow and meticulous builder. I will post as I go. Marty

Fine!!....LOL

I guess Marty missed post 3898 back on 2/1/10......:D:Q:D:Q

scalercflyer 02-26-2010 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by Biplane Murphy (Post 696468)
Fine!!....LOL

I guess Marty missed post 3898 back on 2/1/10......:D:Q:D:Q

Yeah I'm getting old..... apologies :o marty

scalercflyer 02-26-2010 05:39 PM

The plans
 
Boys tonight I will "borrow" my wife's camera and give you (ya'll, Texican talk!?) a peak at the plans and the article that inspired me to take on this project (I must be crazy ????:blah:!). :eek::D As I go along, if any of you are interested in the plans, an arrangment might be made to "supply" you with a set. :D More to come........ marty

degreen60 02-26-2010 06:20 PM

Marty did not see the posts cause they were not in RED. LOL

Biplane Murphy 02-26-2010 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 696471)
Yeah I'm getting old..... apologies :o marty

No Problem Marty, I figured you were doing your Ben Buckle plane, and since I know you love the movie "The Blue Max" I figured that would be a good guess!!
So you are doing a bigger one!!
That is going to be sweet!!



Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 696480)
Marty did not see the posts cause they were not in RED. LOL

HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHahhahahahhahahhahahahha hahha.......
HAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHahaahahhahahahahhahaha hhaha.......

That was great degreen!!

from now on, when I talk to Marty, I might just have to use RED.

:Q:Q:Q:D:D:D

dbcisco 02-26-2010 09:37 PM

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Like this one? ::o

degreen60 02-26-2010 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by dbcisco (Post 696526)
Like this one? ::o

That should be against the law. Someone should have to spend time in jail or at the very least home detention.

dbcisco 02-26-2010 11:19 PM

Maybe they should ban red paint. But then what color will they paint the barns we are going to storm after the Great War. :blah:

degreen60 02-27-2010 12:18 AM


Originally Posted by dbcisco (Post 696560)
Maybe they should ban red paint. But then what color will they paint the barns we are going to storm after the Great War. :blah:

Close to where I live was a barn that was painted blue. It has now been torn down but stood so long painted blue that the hill was named "Blue Barn Hill". There is a sign at the hill now. The barn is also painted on the side of building in town. Guess barns could have been painted blue. But then what about all those old wood railroad cars painted box car red? My dad was a car knocker on the Milwaukee and he called the paint red lead.

dbcisco 02-27-2010 12:32 AM

Yup. Red lead used lead tetroxide as the pigment. They also used arsenic of lead to make white paint. Lead was one of the most popular base elements in coloring agents for thousands of years. Then in 1980 children sarted eating paint chips and ruined everything.

degreen60 02-27-2010 12:59 AM

I had a cousin that eat paint chips. She died as a child of unknow causes in the 50s. Can only guess now that it was from eating the paint.


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