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Dirky 12-15-2009 08:25 AM

She's going to be a beauty Ron...

How much will take-off weight be? Any idea?



Percyflyer 12-15-2009 08:28 AM

Hey Marty,

Been around, just keeping a low profile. I've been putting the details on my N-17 and planning for future projects. UPS said my new Electriflite Nieuport 11 will be here today.
We had our Dawn Patrol Christmas dinner last Saturday. Talk among the guys is half scale. 3 are building 1/2 scale DR1 tripes. So we may see some big stuff next summer.

I want to wish a Merry Christmas to all on the WW1 Forum

steve percifield

Ron 12-15-2009 11:46 AM


I'm aiming for 12 1/2 pounds... last weigh in was 7 pounds 12 ounces...I have since put on the cowl. guns should weigh about 2 ounces, the motor and propellor weigh 32 ounces..battery weighs 19 ounces..cowl weighs 9 ounces.....so that leaves me at 10 pounds 14 ounces..which leaves 1 pound 8 ounces for covering.... 4 meters of world tex....might be a couple ounces over.....I am considering adding a sound system which is another 12 ounces, so I may be about 12 ounces over which will be 13 1/4 pounds, but with about 2800 sq. inches of wing it won't be critical...my last one weighed in at 10 1/2 pounds, but it didn't have as much detail, the axle wing was too weak for my liking, and the top sheeting was all 1/16 balsa...light but just a little too frail, so I did the top sheeting of 3/32 this time and left all other sheeting at 1/16. last model used 3/32" wire for landing gear, and no fairing..also had no wire in the cabane struts...this time i used 1/8 wire for the gear, and 3/16 for the axle, and added 1/8 wire through the center of the cabanes....a little heavier, but I wanted a little more strength in this area. I'm hoping I made up for the weight penalty by using my own home made wheels which weigh 11 ounces the pair instead of 42 ounces for the commercially made ones I used last time. next weigh in will be after covering, and motor in.

7car7 12-15-2009 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Percyflyer (Post 671543)
Hey 7car7.
Who's kit is the Gypsy Moth??

Hi Steve, it's a GWS foam plane - the Pico Tiger Moth. I made the cowl to look like a Gypsy Moth, and lowered the motor so the shaft comes out lower. (Real Tiger Moth had it's engine upside down, so it's prop shaft comes out real high.)

7car7 12-15-2009 04:37 PM

Ron, that plane is looking sweet!

Steve, ONE HALF SCALE? That's incredible. Really starts approaching the thought of "hmm, perhaps next one will be real".

Ron 12-15-2009 07:57 PM

boy half scale !! imagine trying to transport that puppy around?? a 1/3 scale one is a load for my pickup truck...getting it in under the door to the canopy is a trick...then the upper wing has to go in on an angle, because it's too long for the tail gate to close.

Percyflyer 12-15-2009 08:15 PM

These guys are already flying a 44% tripe and a 1/2 scale Fokker D-VI..1/3 scale is trouble enough with transporting, handling and storage. I have a couple more 1/3 scale on the boards, but I am seriously considering limiting future projects to 1/4. I enjoy all sizes. I just received the Great Planes Electrifly Nieuport 11. It's a good lookin bird.


scalercflyer 12-16-2009 01:29 AM

Hey Perc, I have a nice set of 1/4 scale DVA plans begging to be built. :D What do you say? :confused::eek::D:cool: Marty

scalercflyer 12-16-2009 01:58 AM

Build site
Check this out Boys! Marty

Gonzo007 12-16-2009 02:12 AM

WOW Ron. That looks great. Your motor is on its way. I just finished cleaning up the shop and will be working towards painting the DVII soon.


Ron 12-16-2009 03:36 AM

good to hear you are going to paint that one.....isn't the stock colour scheme terrible??
it will look really good in lozenge.........did you manage to find the paint we were talking about?..I can hardly wait to see the new scheme. don't chicken out on me here, or I'll have to come over there and paint it for you. :-)

Percyflyer 12-16-2009 05:38 AM

Are those Johnson Plans??
I have a set of those, some where!!!


scalercflyer 12-16-2009 09:55 AM

DVa plans
Perc, they are WE Technical plans (89"WS). Years ago I saw one of these planes built up. It was so big, you could put a Texican cat in it (HeHe). I might be persuaded to part with them if anybody you know is interested since it's unlikely I'll build it (too big, no place to fly it). Marty

p61widowrc 12-16-2009 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Stickhead (Post 3108)
If you haven't already, check out this addy: www.aerodromerc.com for great kits, plans, building services, downloadable decals PLUS 4 and 5 color lozenge plans for making your own decals or stencils. Cool, huh? Great service, nice people. Wonderful planes designed for E flight from the start, no converting. Most everything included in kits, except for appropriate wire, and a little extra balsa for here and there. Get the covering offered, too-it's great stuff!:D

I agree with Stickhead. I have the Spad VII in progress and it is a well thought out kit and if I can get it finished right, should be a good flyer as well. Like Stickhead says, they have all the covering, decals and are easy to work with.

Ron 12-16-2009 06:06 PM

Marty..........those could likely be "modified " to make a good electric model...what size do they need to be for you?? I can modify them for electric and scale them down for you if you like........I like a challenge now and then

Ron 12-16-2009 10:44 PM

2 Attachment(s)
More doo dads :blah:
I spent an hour or so this morning making and installing the wig tip skids.....hope they are never needed :rolleyes:

WWI Ace 12-17-2009 11:22 PM

The skids are cool Ron!! How did ya build 'em? Steve

WWI Ace 12-17-2009 11:24 PM

Marty, just how big is this supposed Texican cat? Are you talking about domestic cats or the Bobcats and occasional mountain lion we get around here? Steve

Ron 12-18-2009 04:04 AM

Just cut 'em out of a piece of an old hockey stick Steve...put a couple brackets under the wing, and shazam :-) working on guns now...heat shields have all the slots cut in them, and I gotta figure out a way to wrap them around a 1 1/4" dowel without breaking them..wonder if windex has enough ammonia in it to do the job?

or surely there must be some sort of cleaner that's heavy in ammonia I have all the pieces pretty much drawn onto some wood, so I gotta spend a half hour with the coping saw to cut em out....should be done in a day or two...then it will be time to make the rotary motor...I'm gonna try to not cover till I have every conceivable extra done this time... but it's hard to not open the rolls of material...problem is once I open them, then it will be covered and I'll be kicking myself cause there was something else I was gonna put on it and didn't :-)
That 1/4 scale DR1 in brass and foam is gonna be a project and a half eh?? should fly fine though..likely it will be pretty light....I guess Marty is getting a little upset...every time this thing gets posted, there's another RED piece on it :-)
don't worry Marty...the guns probably won't be red :-) or the motor.....( maybe)

degreen60 12-18-2009 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 672838)
I guess Marty is getting a little upset...every time this thing gets posted, there's another RED piece on it :-)
don't worry Marty...the guns probably won't be red :-) or the motor.....( maybe)

If you make the guns and motor rusty then they can look kind of red.

Ron 12-18-2009 06:16 AM

yeah ..yeah De........that's the ticket..rusty red guns :-)

WWI Ace 12-18-2009 06:12 PM

I think Marty just says he hates red planes so he can get some attention. I wonder if there is a clinic or something where he can get help? LOL!!! Ron thanks for telling me how you made the skids. Not sure where to find a hockey stick in the Texas Panhandle though. Steve

Ron 12-18-2009 11:36 PM

i'll mail you one :-) ( hockey stick piece )

scalercflyer 12-19-2009 02:08 AM

All of these negative comments are making me see RED! :eek::D:cool:;) Marty

WWI Ace 12-19-2009 06:05 AM

That piece of hockey stick won't have tooth marks in it will it Ron? LOL!!! Steve

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