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scalercflyer 09-23-2007 12:52 PM

Advice
 
Excellent advice Don! :) I heartily agree, especially about the flying afterwards. Helps to pump up the members. :D Martin

scalercflyer 09-23-2007 12:57 PM

Try this
 
Steve, I saw a club member do this once to help level the field and get rid of things that were protruding from the ground. Take a piece of chain link fence, put some weight on it (bricks, cinder blocks) and drag it behind a riding tractor. Anything such as rocks, grass stubs, etc, sticking up is removed. Also levels the ground and rakes it at the same time. Martin (aka The KING)

WWI Ace 09-23-2007 09:31 PM

Thanks guys!! I'll submit these suggestions to the other members. Steve.

pd1 09-23-2007 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stevecooper (Post 276398)
any day now the long awaited parcel for U.H is posted an on the way! Think'in bout a WW1 french mono I saw a while back but the name escapes me at the moment but she's a cute'y ( trainer?) any thoughts my bub's? stevecooper

Steve, I'm a bit late. I couldn't find these pictures.
Here's a couple of shots of one at Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome.

Paul

FlyingMonkey 09-23-2007 11:36 PM

Man... I am kicking myself for not going to Rhinebeck when I was in MA.

I kept wanting to go, but things kept getting in the way.

Now that I am in FL, it's a much further drive...



On another note, I just came across a short film available on iTunes.

It's called Der Ostwind. A WWI short about a German Ace who searches for someone who would provide him a challenge in the air... and finds him.

pd1 09-23-2007 11:43 PM

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"Man... I am kicking myself for not going to Rhinebeck when I was in MA.

I kept wanting to go, but things kept getting in the way.

Now that I am in FL, it's a much further drive..."

FM in the spirit of monkey annoying, can't quite get to bashing.
Here's some more shots of Rhinebeck.
You missed a lot.

Paul

look for the balloon

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D-VII
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Moth paper cut.
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Great Lakes

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FlyingMonkey 09-24-2007 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by pd1 (Post 277654)
FM in the spirit of monkey annoying, can't quite get to bashing.
Here's some more shots of Rhinebeck.
You missed a lot.

Paul


You're a bad man...

I think one of the things I would love to do most, is check out the WWI hangars. From a few pictures I have seen, it appears they have done a nice job recreating the feel of a WWI Aerodrome.

CarreraGTSCS 09-24-2007 12:15 AM

Don't hate me: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mike_k_usa/ . There's about 200 Rhinebeck photos in my album. Took them two weeks ago.

FlyingMonkey 09-24-2007 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by CarreraGTSCS (Post 277669)
Don't hate me: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mike_k_usa/ . There's about 200 Rhinebeck photos in my album. Took them two weeks ago.


I should thank you for sharing your pictures...

But since you did it to antagonize me, I hate you!

:D

FlyingMonkey 09-24-2007 12:32 AM

Wow, great shots.

Now I want to get up there even more!

CarreraGTSCS 09-24-2007 12:51 AM

Thanks.

I bought a better camera just after the ORA show. Takes video to a card so I can download easier. Better quality too.

Mike

Spoonwasher 09-24-2007 10:23 AM

Hello Steve, that Moraine-Saulnier Type 'N". would be a great subject. Just in case you didn't know it was that plane where the first syncronized machine gun actually shot through the propeller making the pilot alot more acurate shooting straight ahead, with out shooting half his propeller off.A significant advance and advantage if you could keep the plane in the air. I believe this aircraft had a knome engine like the sopwith where the pilot had to shut the ignition on & off,no throttle and it used wing warping to bank and turn.If the enemy didn't kill you, the plane certainly would. Most pilots in ww1 died in training . Flight training consisted of ground instruction about the controls, and learn the rest on your own in the air....ouch. I actually have one of these planes, in a 1:72 scale copy in plastic(Old Airfix model) hanging from my ceiling.I thought it might make a great scale subject one day.
Don

WWI Ace 09-27-2007 12:45 AM

I saw a new Fokker DR1 arf on www.powerlinehobbies.com that already has the motor, ESC, and servos installed. If the picture is correct you can either get it in red or black!! Steve

FlyingMonkey 09-27-2007 01:04 AM

Check that again. If it is anything like the Camel above it, it says it is either electric or glow. Which would suggest to me, that there is no motor.

If there was, I would have to add it to my list...


***I took my own advice, and went back. The box does say that the brushless is installed, or at least leads you to believe it...

CarreraGTSCS 09-27-2007 02:03 AM

I'm pretty sure that you could get the Camel with a brushless outrunner. I wasn't able to expand the image so I couldn't get the details. Looks pretty cool.

Mike

WWI Ace 09-27-2007 03:09 AM

The Fokker DR1, Camel, and Neiuport 17 all have brushless outrunners installed. They're a little pricey but you get everything but the RX and battery!!! The Camel even has factory installed flying wires!! Plus they look ALOT better than the Cedar Hobbies planes!!!Steve

FlyingMonkey 09-27-2007 12:52 PM

It is very tempting. I found a sort of build thread on this recently. If I remember correctly, they ended up taking the stock motor out because it was too small, and mounted incorrectly.

WWI Ace 09-29-2007 12:06 AM

Hey guys check out this video!! It is of a 35"ws kit from www.aerodromerc.com that is laser cut. I have this kit. The video is at http://www.bengco.net/videos/FokkerDr1.mpeg if ya wanna see it. Steve.

scalercflyer 09-29-2007 12:42 AM

The rudder
 
Notice , Gentlemen, the size of the rudder. Also take note to the fact it flys just fine with the scale one (see my previous comments) :). And lastly take note that it is not RED! :D :D Martin

WWI Ace 09-29-2007 01:31 PM

I figured you would like that Martin!!! Steve.

scalercflyer 10-02-2007 02:00 AM

Let's fly
 
Mike, I would still like to get together to fly before winter sets in and we become shop rats. :eek: Also I have been thinking about flying indoors at Lakehurst this winter. :D Your thoughts? Martin

50+AirYears 10-02-2007 02:33 PM

Gee, you mean with the advantage of electric, there are still Northerners who don't fly all year round? Shocking. My addition of e-flight has made it much easier to achieve almost 17 years on the AMA all-weather program, and I have never counted my indoor FF and e-heli flying.

Started Jan 1990, haven't missed a month since, and that includes a month of March on the ice at Lake Harvanan in Northern Sweden (about 30 klicks from the Arctic Circle) and a nice pleasant February 1991 on the UP.

WWI Ace 10-02-2007 06:20 PM

You have to ask? If I had a place as big as Lakehurst for indoor flying I'd be there!! It's probably my wife's worst nightmare that I would find somewhere that would allow me to fly everyday!!! Steve.

degreen60 10-02-2007 06:21 PM

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One picture is worth a 1000 words.

WWI Ace 10-04-2007 02:17 AM

You are the man degreen60!!! I fly in the snow sometimes too! I know my lipolys won't last as long in the cold but flying is flying!! Steve.

50+AirYears 10-04-2007 02:23 PM

There aren't any practical battery technologies that don't loose capacity in hot or cold weather. A couple that I've heard of, like molten Sulfur, and liquid Sodium, you wouldn't want to be anywhere near, let alonebe able to get into any reasonable sized model.

WWI Ace 10-06-2007 08:01 PM

How are all you guys doing? I am going to work on the little tripe again today. Still sorry for no pics but the wife says if I bug her one more time about the camera she'll kill me!!! Hope to have pics soon so you guys can have some comedy relief at my expense. Actually it looks OKAY just not perfect. We had a new guy join the RC club the other night. He owns an earthmoving company and volunteered his equipment to build a runway. Sometimes you just get lucky!! The AMA charter papers are sent off so we're close to having a real club. The slimer guys are already giving me fits though about flying electrics. Guess I should've kept one of my glow engines!! Steve.

Biplane Murphy 10-06-2007 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by WWI Ace (Post 285179)
How are all you guys doing? I am going to work on the little tripe again today. Still sorry for no pics but the wife says if I bug her one more time about the camera she'll kill me!!! Hope to have pics soon so you guys can have some comedy relief at my expense. Actually it looks OKAY just not perfect. We had a new guy join the RC club the other night. He owns an earthmoving company and volunteered his equipment to build a runway. Sometimes you just get lucky!! The AMA charter papers are sent off so we're close to having a real club. The slimer guys are already giving me fits though about flying electrics. Guess I should've kept one of my glow engines!! Steve.

HEHEHEHEHE........Welcome to "Club Life"......Just let me know and I'll send you one of my extra Glow Engines if you need to placate the nitro only flyers.....;-):):Q:tc::D:cool::p:$

degreen60 10-06-2007 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by WWI Ace (Post 285179)
The slimer guys are already giving me fits though about flying electrics. Guess I should've kept one of my glow engines!! Steve.

Have someone make a recording of a glow engine running, then when you get to the line to fly spend about 15 min flipping the prop like you are having a hard time starting the engine. When you get ready to take off turn on the recording as loud as you can. Now ask the slimer guys if this makes them happy.

scalercflyer 10-06-2007 11:16 PM

Slimers
 
Hey Steve, between me and Murph we can hook you up with lotta's slimer engines so that you will be the envy of the whole club! :D Why I even have a RYOBI weed wacker motor with a big prop that has been converted for RC use! You could pretend you were "running the engine up" on the flight line and blow all those slimers to Kingdom come! Or maybe you can carve a fake glow engine and stick it on one of youe eletrics. :D:D What do you think Chris? :confused: Martin

scalercflyer 10-06-2007 11:19 PM

It figures!
 
It figures Guys! Those Texicans get all the breaks! :roll: Steve stepped in it and came up smelling like a rose! Imagine a paved runway if you could Chris! :cool: One can only dream......... Martin

scalercflyer 10-06-2007 11:30 PM

Aviatik Berg DI
 
Hey Boys I just found a set of plans I had forgotten about. It's Berg DI. Anybody need plans for a neat winter project? It's a very large rubber plane just begging to be electric. Boy is this a great hobby or what?!! Comments Boys? Martin

http://www.rus-sell.com/image_id1217...DI_model_:.jpg

FlyingMonkey 10-07-2007 12:42 AM

that thing is awesome.

Not that I have a long winter here, but I might like to tackle something like that.

Biplane Murphy 10-07-2007 01:16 AM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 285251)
It figures Guys! Those Texicans get all the breaks! :roll: Steve stepped in it and came up smelling like a rose! Imagine a paved runway if you could Chris! :cool: One can only dream......... Martin

Yep.... I could only pray to someday get to fly off a paved runway.

Our runway is a sanctuary for all the homeless gophers of the world.:<:

WWI Ace 10-07-2007 01:30 AM

Hey Martin, how hard could it be to build a large rubber plane? It should be easier than building with balsa, and when you crash the plane will just bounce right? I thought I had an old OS .46 tucked away but I guess I got rid of it. Steve.

Biplane Murphy 10-07-2007 01:48 AM

I think I have (3) .40 size engines, (1) .60 size engine, and (1) .70 size 4-stroke not in use right now.

I did see a DR1 designed around that .70 4-stroke engine.:) someday :)

CarreraGTSCS 10-07-2007 02:11 AM


Originally Posted by scalercflyer (Post 281990)
Mike, I would still like to get together to fly before winter sets in and we become shop rats. :eek: Also I have been thinking about flying indoors at Lakehurst this winter. :D Your thoughts? Martin

Martin-- Sorry I didn't answer sooner. I'd love to get together. I'm usually pretty pressed for free time though as I'm starting a new business and working full time at another while permits, licenses, architect, construction, etc. gets finished. Add to that normal family committments and it's dark before I have any fun time. When I do get to fly it's in the school yard behind my house. Two battery packs and back home. Maybe I can break away one weekend for a few hours. I'm not AMA so I may not be welcome at your field though. I'm considering joining AMA just so I can fly a new model when completed at NEAT, Rhinebeck and maybe the Dawn Patrol Rondevous in Dayton (2009). I bought a Dynaflite S.E.5a 1/5 kit.

Mike

WWI Ace 10-07-2007 02:15 AM

I really appreciate it guys but money is a little tight right now. Maybe later on. We're having trouble getting our insurance to pay anything on Colt's broken arm. Gonna have to wait and see what happens there. I don't get it!! We pay all that money for insurance and then when we need it they try to come up with reasons not to pay. It'll be all right though!! It always turns out alright in the end!! Thanks anyway!! Steve.

Biplane Murphy 10-07-2007 02:18 AM

Steve.... I'll mail you a Super Tigre (superturd) .45 engine at no cost to you....I have no use for it.

WWI Ace 10-07-2007 02:18 AM

Hey Mike!! I'm not a big fan of the SE5A but just the sheer size of that kit makes it worthy!! What are you planning to use for the power system? Steve.


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