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7car7 05-07-2008 03:13 PM

Ground effect wing
 
What exactly does the ground effect wing do?

(other than look cool:tc:)

WWI Ace 05-07-2008 06:12 PM

If you are talking about the wing between the wheels it actually helped to provide more lift. Steve

7car7 05-07-2008 06:30 PM

So does it sort of soften the landing?
I wonder if it does anything for a model?

50+AirYears 05-07-2008 06:34 PM

Probably only if you get the incedence wrong. But then, the plane won't look right if you leave it off.

Biplane Murphy 05-07-2008 07:51 PM

I have the GP Fokker DVII......

after many hard landings, the incidence of the sub-wing was off a bit....I just couldn't seem to get it back to where it should be...So I removed it.....

I noticed a small decrease in lift after it was removed....it definately was doing it's job.:)

Biplane Murphy 05-07-2008 08:00 PM

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Also.....I have recovered a GP DR1 in white, and am getting ready to start painting her in this color scheme tonight.

Attachment 65159

However....I am wondering if anyone has a bottom view of this color scheme, or a similar color scheme?

details 05-07-2008 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Biplane Murphy (Post 404220)
Also.....I have recovered a GP DR1 in white, and am getting ready to start painting her in this color scheme tonight.

Attachment 65159

However....I am wondering if anyone has a bottom view of this color scheme, or a similar color scheme?

Biplane Murphy,

Do you mean photos like these?

Dave:tc:

Biplane Murphy 05-07-2008 09:55 PM

Thanks Details.:)

In the photo I attached, it looks like the white and black bands/stripes wrap around the underside of the fuselage. The sky blue on the bottom of the fuse looks like it ends just past or at the rear of the cockpit.

So I am wondering if that is really the case.

The photo you provided shows the blue extending to the tail.

details 05-07-2008 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by Biplane Murphy (Post 404292)
Thanks Details.:)

In the photo I attached, it looks like the white and black bands/stripes wrap around the underside of the fuselage. The sky blue on the bottom of the fuse looks like it ends just past or at the rear of the cockpit.

So I am wondering if that is really the case.

The photo you provided shows the blue extending to the tail.

Biplane Murphy,

I don't have any other info re. this paint scheme. I just remembered that I had a photo of one of the many Dr.1s at Omaka, OZ. Maybe you can find out more if you find their website. Oh, just found it! Go to: http://classicfighters.co.nz/

Good Luck!

Dave

Biplane Murphy 05-07-2008 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by details (Post 404303)
Biplane Murphy,

I don't have any other info re. this paint scheme. I just remembered that I had a photo of one of the many Dr.1s at Omaka, OZ. Maybe you can find out more if you find their website. Oh, just found it! Go to: http://classicfighters.co.nz/

Good Luck!

Dave

Thanks Details.....I gotta get back to work...so I suppose I will be looking through that link later.:)

WWI Ace 05-07-2008 11:20 PM

Good to see you back on the tripe Murph!! Does it really matter whether you stripe the bottom or not? Everything I've read though shows the top wing stripes and horizontal stab stripes carrying over to the bottom. As far as I know the fuselage stripes did not. Some people say the bottoms of the wings and fuselage were always sky blue. They were when they were new planes but as the dope got exposed to the elements it began to yellow and turned the sky blue almost a turquoise green color. Help us out Martin!! Steve

Biplane Murphy 05-08-2008 01:57 AM

Hi Steve....I figured I had procrastinated long enough...LOL...

I also wish Marty would turn up....I bet he knows about the bottom of the fuselage.;-)

degreen60 05-08-2008 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by Biplane Murphy (Post 404394)
Hi Steve....I figured I had procrastinated long enough...LOL...

I also wish Marty would turn up....I bet he knows about the bottom of the fuselage.;-)

He would probably say paint it red. LOL

Biplane Murphy 05-08-2008 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 404470)
He would probably say paint it red. LOL

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA

Biplane Murphy 05-08-2008 04:07 AM

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OK....Look what I found.:)

After 3 hours of google searching......:o

Check out the last photo on the bottom of the fuse.

I'm going to go with that....Not sure about the red "LO" yet though.

G_eronimo 05-08-2008 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by Biplane Murphy (Post 404473)
OK....Look what I found.:)

After 3 hours of google searching......:o

Check out the last photo on the bottom of the fuse.

I'm going to go with that....Not sure about the red "LO" yet though.

Looks like a plane flown by Ernst Udet.

LO was a nickname or so for his girlfriend/fiancee or whatever.

[media]http://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/CloseCombatFuture/rosssmodels/udet.jpg[/media]

Just google pictures for Udet.

Uli

Biplane Murphy 05-08-2008 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by G_eronimo (Post 404496)
Looks like a plane flown by Ernst Udet.

LO was a nickname or so for his girlfriend/fiancee or whatever.

[media]http://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/CloseCombatFuture/rosssmodels/udet.jpg[/media]
Just google pictures for Udet.

Uli

Yep.....I think I read "LO" was her initials?

And Hans Kirchstein flew it too.

degreen60 05-08-2008 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by Biplane Murphy (Post 404473)
Not sure about the red "LO" yet though.


Its a Foker DR1, it needs red on it. HAHA

Biplane Murphy 05-08-2008 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by degreen60 (Post 404644)
Its a Foker DR1, it needs red on it. HAHA

I figured the "red" would be from the blood of my enemies......:Q:D:Q

Bub Steve 05-08-2008 08:07 PM

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Biplane Murphy::Or a "bulls-eye" for Micky < bub,steve

jjordison 05-08-2008 08:19 PM

Forgive me if there is advice out there in a thread already, but I need help selecting a suitable motor for a 1/4 scale, 24 pound, 89 inch ws Proctor Albatros DVa...thanks, Jordy

carlosponti 05-08-2008 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by 7car7 (Post 404170)
So does it sort of soften the landing?
I wonder if it does anything for a model?

it did add lift in the real deal and on the model however did nothing for the landings. the landings were softened in the real thing by a axel running through a hollow section in the lower winglet that was tied off with bungie cords to act as a suspension. some large scale models have this feature as well.

Bub Steve 05-08-2008 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by jjordison (Post 404658)
Forgive me if there is advice out there in a thread already, but I need help selecting a suitable motor for a 1/4 scale, 24 pound, 89 inch ws Proctor Albatros DVa...thanks, Jordy

jjordison::Let me poke around an get back to you, There are set-ups for such planes but I know there out there, Let's hope some bub's around here will chime in, your bub steve PS Welcome to wattflyer the coolist site on the web!!

http://scalemodel.net/pictures/AlbatrosDVa_front1.jpg

Biplane Murphy 05-08-2008 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by stevecooper (Post 404655)
Biplane Murphy::Or a "bulls-eye" for Micky < bub,steve

SHHHHhhhhhhhhh.....Don't tell anyone, but my scale pilot will be 1/2 of a Darth Vader Action Figure that my girlfriend bought me for Easter....:D:Q:D

WWI Ace 05-08-2008 11:17 PM

Jordy the most common rule is 75-100 watts per pound of plane for sports performance. Steve


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